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Miguel Cabrera's career

Postby jfg » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:29 am

Sometimes I forget that this guy is 26 years old. What do you think of this career path and does he shatter records? Just think if the age 27 rule applies to him.
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Re: Miguel Cabrera's career

Postby bigken117 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:41 am

If he doesn't get too fat and doesn't break down before his early 30's he looks like a future Hall of Famer.
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Re: Miguel Cabrera's career

Postby BillyHallDisciple » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:48 am

bigken117 wrote:If he doesn't get too fat and doesn't break down before his early 30's he looks like a future Hall of Famer.


This factor is crucial.
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Re: Miguel Cabrera's career

Postby JTWood » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:07 pm

Yep. Just need to avoid The Curse of Andruw Jones.
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Re: Miguel Cabrera's career

Postby jfg » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:35 pm

How about one step further, and we say not just a future HOF'er but also one of the greatest ever? Now, that I make the calculations it seems like a stretch for him to break Bonds record. He'll get injured at least once or twice in his career so even if he bumps his HR total to 40-45 HR a year he'd need a few big years and a healthy career to have a real shot. But, top 10 is definitely doable and if he keeps his average up, he'd definitely have to be considered one of the top tier greats.
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Re: Miguel Cabrera's career

Postby schmidty » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:15 pm

jfg wrote:How about one step further, and we say not just a future HOF'er but also one of the greatest ever? Now, that I make the calculations it seems like a stretch for him to break Bonds record. He'll get injured at least once or twice in his career so even if he bumps his HR total to 40-45 HR a year he'd need a few big years and a healthy career to have a real shot. But, top 10 is definitely doable and if he keeps his average up, he'd definitely have to be considered one of the top tier greats.


Sure, why not? Though he's so early in his career that injuries or skill deterioration around age 30 (or combination of the 2) are probably just as likely (if not more so) as an inner-circle HoF career.

As you'd imagine, baseball-reference.com's similarity score matches are an awfully good bunch. There just aren't many guys who have put up Miggy's numbers at his age. There are only 5 guys who have a score over 900 for matching Miggy. Griffey Jr. (top tier great, even with injuries), Hank Aaron (top tier), Orlando Cepeda (fell apart after turning 30, but still HoF), Frank Robinson (top tier), and Hal Trosky (career derailed by injuries). After that (scores under 900), the next best matches don't look as close. You have HoFers Mantle and Kaline (though Kaline doesn't Miggy's power), busts Andrew Jones and Rueben Sierra (though they don't have Miggy's AVG), and Albert the Great (who is on his own planet, and doesn't even have a single player in history with a similarity score better than 900).
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Re: Miguel Cabrera's career

Postby baseball77 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:43 pm

There is no doubt right now that if Miguel keeps playing the way he has, he will be a lock for the hall of fame. I would also agree with you that it would not be a stretch at all to say that he could go down as one of the greatest of all time if he doesn't regress too much or become injury prone.

This guy is one of the top 5 hitting talents in baseball, and severely underrated. He has been a superstar since he was 21 years old. He hit a HR off Roger Clemens in the postseason when he was 20 years old and a walk-off HR in his first Major League game. Not enough can be said about Miguel Cabrera's talent.
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