bigh0rt wrote:Madison wrote:bigh0rt wrote:Well, when you consider that a 1500 out of 2400 is 63%, yeah, it's pretty low. But the biggest problem at play here is not the percentiles being scored on the exam, but the exam itself.
Oh man. You really believe that the test is the problem? It's not the students, parents, and teachers? It's the exam? Please tell me I'm reading that wrong and you're not really shifting the blame to a piece of paper.
Please tell me I didn't read that H0rt!
I assure you that the SAT exam is a wildly flawed, inaccurate measure of intelligence, ability, or anything else it attempts to measure. It is this reason that many colleges and universities are no longer requiring it as part of the application process. Should the kids be getting higher scores? Of course. But living in a state with more standardized educational tests for its students than any other in the entire U.S., I can apply some of the major downfalls of the system which governs NY and apply them to the SAT (and then some, since the test itself is structured so poorly). When an exam is structured in such a way as the SAT, a completely foreign and silly (my opinion) measure of assessment, that you actually have entire prep courses to learn and strategize over how to take it, then there is obviously a problem.
Again, in spite of all of this, the kids should still be doing better. Although, contrary to all of that, despite what many parents think, many of their children are not only getting a much better education than they believe they are, but also getting a much better one than they themselves got, even though nothing could convince them otherwise. Texas and New York seem like night and day, but I hear many of the same statements, concerns, etc. because it seems like the easy and/or popular thing to do.
All I know is I took the SAT and it wasn't anything remotely close to what I'd call "hard" or "difficult". When I hear kids are barely getting half the questions right on a general aptitude test (which is all the SAT is, general aptitude), that's scary. Of course it isn't the be-all-end-all of testing, it's just general knowledge, but the scores should be much higher. 75% isn't an unreasonable target in my opinion, it's not like I'm saying they should get 9 out of 10 right (90%). They should easily be able to get the majority of the questions right though, and 63% is pretty sad.
The prep courses have been around forever, and as far as I know (in my limited experience since I didn't take any prep courses, but did hear the scores of those who did in my school), they don't do any good.
I don't doubt my kid's school is requiring them to learn more than my generation was required to learn. The difference is how much of that are they actually learning (meaning "retaining"). I don't know the answer to that question, but yes, the schools are requiring more to be taught nowadays than they did in the old days. Hopefully enough is sticking so it can be called a better education. The jury is still out on that for me.