Neato Torpedo wrote:The guy found me on Youtube and demanded that I give him a bunch of free stuff. I declined, so he went completely ape[mod edit] on me.
....So the entire family gets penalized? Or if he did some stuff from a friend's computer as well, do both families get penalized? Either way, there would be no way to prove it was him that called me on the phone, because pay phones don't have a static IP that could be traced back to the personal information of the one using it. Yes, I can absolutely prove that those 50 emails calling me a stupid idiot were sent by someone in that guy's house, but what I would actually care about is who was the one that called my family one to three times in the wee hours of the morning almost every day for four months or call several people that I know and spread some really nasty rumors (both actually happened to someone). There's no way to connect the internet IP address to the pay phone two blocks away with which the calls were actually made other than circumstantial evidence.
This guy isn't even unique. There's tens of thousands of people like him congregating on the internet on websites like the infamous 4chan. I've read some horror stories about what happened when they got the personal information of some controversial figures. Imagine if they were given the opportunity to harass whoever they want and whenever they want, just a pay phone or a proxy away.
So you met on the net. Ok, so do you really believe he would have acted the same way if he knew ahead of time that he was responsible for any and all things he did on the net? Even if the answer is yes, you'd have his info and legal action would have been taken against him. Done deal.
And yes, the owner of the dwelling would ultimately be responsible. It's not an unusual position, we've already got it with guns, cars, phones, etc. The owners are ultimately responsible for anything done with those items.
Pay phones are going the way of the dinosaur, just read an article last week on msnbc.com about how hard it is to even find a pay phone nowadays. Made their "Top 40" list of things that were "dead" and no longer around in today's world. And proxies would be illegal. If the internet was configured the best way possible, proxies would be impossible.
I am sorry to hear you ran into a crazy guy (sorry I didn't say that sooner).
Art Vandelay wrote:Madison wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:You guys must live in a world where there are no crooked or vengeful cops, politicians, bosses, teachers, co-workers, neighbors, etc., etc., etc.
Wait! I forgot to put on my tin foil hat today! The bad guys musta done got me! I knew to just screw that thing into my skull! Why oh why didn't I listen and understand that the whole world is crooked and out to get me?
An occasional desire--or need--for anonymity isn't the exclusive domain of tin foil hat conspiracy theory nut jobs. Off the top of my head I can think of a handful of examples just from my small town where someone had information to make public but wanted to remain anonymous where it was a perfectly reasonable request.
Do you think law enforcement agencies should have get rid of their anonymous tip lines? Should we do away with anonymous voting?
I read the post and responded in turn. If everyone's truely out to get us, we should be wearing tin foil hats, no? I don't disagree that there are a few bad apples out there, but we're far, far away from having to be scared.
Since you said you can think of five examples, how about giving me just one? I'm in a sprawling metroplex and cannot come up with a single reason. If a small town has five off the top of your head, I'd love to know just what I must be missing.
Sheep are spineless, so the law unfortunately has to keep the anonymous tip lines. Not that they are truely anonymous, but whatever. As to voting, sure, make it public. No real reason not to.