Neato Torpedo wrote: Madison wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:I'm not talking about plain old harassment over the internet, Mad, I'm talking about these people harassing my friends and family with phone calls at all hours of the night (something that could be covered quite easily by using a pay phone) and screwing with me by calling people I know and spreading really annoying rumors about me and my family. I can brush off being bombarded with 50 emails calling me a stupid jerk, but with the proper personal information, they can cross the internet-to-real-life line very easily.
Tick off someone in one of your leagues or something?
All kidding aside, as I said, with real information, the psycho would be handled and taken care of, leaving you (and any other victims) in peace. That would be a good thing.
....How? Since they wouldn't be using the internet to terrorize and annoy people, how would they be tracked down? Hell, they could get a friend of theirs or pay a random person to actually make the phone calls via pay phone and therefore removing all trace of themselves. Besides, if there's more than one person using the same internet connection, the personal information evidence is circumstantial, given that it could be anyone in the family using the computer. It would cost me a lot of money to hire a good attorney in a court case that I would probably eventually lose. It would be significantly cheaper and less insanely time-consuming for me just to not give out my personal information on the internet.
Ok, forgive me, but I'm a bit lost.
Let me try to clear this up a bit.
You met the psycho on the net right? Or did you tick off the psycho in real life and it spilled over to the net?
If you met him on the net, then his info would be available and he could be held accountable for it. If you met him in real life, then at least you wouldn't be hounded on the net.
Prosecuting someone is free if you've got a case. Just takes a bit of time to fill out paperwork, so there aren't any issues there.
And as I said earlier, everyone gets a static IP and are responsible for what happens off of that IP. So if he's sharing a connection with someone or that person is sharing with him, then all parties involved are responsible.
Art Vandelay wrote:I really don't understand how anyone can argue that there isn't a need for anonymous speech to be protected. Both on and off the internet.
There really is no argument but it doesn't seem to stop people from trying.
No one's arguing, just discussing.
Maybe my opinion isn't the best one, there's no way for me to know without discussing the topic and getting other people's views. Maybe they know something I don't, or maybe there's something I'm overlooking. Personally, I'd like to hear a good reason for someone to make an accusation and then hide behind a computer. I've stipulated that other countries are harsher, so preferably an example in the U.S. right now would be perfect. If someone has an example of course. If not, that's cool, but nothing has been said so far that changes my opinion that the internet should not be an anonymous wonderland and that everyone should be held accountable for anything and everything they say and do on the net. If someone can change my opinion, more power to them.
Yes doctor, I am sick.
Sick of those who are spineless.
Sick of those who feel self-entitled.
Sick of those who are hypocrites.
Yes doctor, an army is forming.
Yes doctor, there will be a war.
Yes doctor, there will be blood.....