Art Vandelay wrote:This is a false dichotomy. We don't have to decide between one or the other, both are wrong. Nobody in this thread is saying that it's okay for others to torture and kill Americans. The difference is, I don't have a voice in al Qaeda and those acts aren't being committed in my name. I do, theoretically, have a voice in how the US treats it's captives. It's not that I'm "more upset" about the US waterboarding captives than I am about US prisoners being tortured and killed, it's that I can't personaly do anything to stop the latter.
That's a good retort Art. Shows much more thought and insight than this for instance:
acsguitar wrote:Right well we get back at them for the beheadings by dropping daisy cutter bombs on their schools
My point is in the contrast. Let's put to rest this silly talk of us being just like them. We're nothing like them. If suddenly we could know that our captured soldiers would be treated exactly like the detainees at Gitmo, that would be a huge human rights victory. We could never dream that the worst that would ever happen to them is waterboarding.
I'll agree but disagree with your other point. To a point, how enemy combatants are treated reflects on us all. As Americans it is right for us to be concerned about what our military does. But what about your role as a human being? In any conflict not just one involving my own country I think I'd be far more outraged about the country committing the worst atrocities.