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Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:43 am
by Art Vandelay
knapplc wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:The animal rights movement is basically where it's at today because of PETA. It's never going to reach the point where everyone becomes vegan, but the backlash to fur, factory farms, and other animal abuses that don't involve eating them can be traced almost directly to PETA.

Also, I think PETA's number one priority, regardless of what they may claim, is to promote PETA, and at that, they are very good.

All of which could have been accomplished with an intelligent, well-thought-out campaign aimed at educating people about these abuses rather than shock and scare tactics, assault or bizarre publicity stunts.

I don't know. I mean, it's not as if PETA doesn't have that as well...there's a lot of information out there from PETA that isn't the ridiculous stuff like comparing chickens to Holocaust victims, but it's the shock and scare tactics--as well as the overboard ridiculous stuff like this breast milk request and the Super Bowl ad--that get attention. There's a reason that this, the Super Bowl ad, the ads they put out after the guy was decapitated on the bus in Canada, et al are discussed here and elsewhere, but the less ridiculous stuff isn't. The intelligent, well-thought-out, educational campaigns don't garner the same attention as the shock tactics.

Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:13 am
by Dan Lambskin
maybe i can talk my wife into making some home-made bewb-milk ice-cream

also...when i think of PETA, i think of these two things

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Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:45 am
by Amazinz
It would be one thing if the shock and awe was just a hook but that's not the way it works. And it has long been at a point where the PETA label corrupts any message it's attached to because you immediately associate it with crazy.

Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:58 am
by KCollins1304
Amazinz wrote:It would be one thing if the shock and awe was just a hook but that's not the way it works. And it has long been at a point where the PETA label corrupts any message it's attached to because you immediately associate it with crazy.


MOD EDIT: Completely unnecessary

Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:06 pm
by Metroid
KCollins1304 wrote:
Amazinz wrote:It would be one thing if the shock and awe was just a hook but that's not the way it works. And it has long been at a point where the PETA label corrupts any message it's attached to because you immediately associate it with crazy.


MOD EDIT: Completely unnecessary

bait much? :-b

Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:22 pm
by Yoda
Metroid wrote:
KCollins1304 wrote:
Amazinz wrote:It would be one thing if the shock and awe was just a hook but that's not the way it works. And it has long been at a point where the PETA label corrupts any message it's attached to because you immediately associate it with crazy.


MOD EDIT: Completely unnecessary

bait much? :-b


It's true though. :-D

Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:31 pm
by knapplc
Is it a disease? Is it just stupidity? What is it that makes people think it's OK to throw an entire religion under the bus as a joke?

What's wrong with you?

Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:03 pm
by Yoda
knapplc wrote:Is it a disease? Is it just stupidity? What is it that makes people think it's OK to throw an entire religion under the bus as a joke?

What's wrong with you?


I know right?

Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:07 pm
by knapplc
ACS was banned from GT for less. This kind of deliberate instigation is unbelieveable. And to continue on as if it's funny - Yoda, you're amazing. You claim to be this open-minded person, but you're more a hypocrite than the people you denounce.

Re: PETA to Ben & Jerry's: Please Use Breast Milk Ice Cream

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:22 pm
by Neato Torpedo
Art Vandelay wrote:
knapplc wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:The animal rights movement is basically where it's at today because of PETA. It's never going to reach the point where everyone becomes vegan, but the backlash to fur, factory farms, and other animal abuses that don't involve eating them can be traced almost directly to PETA.

Also, I think PETA's number one priority, regardless of what they may claim, is to promote PETA, and at that, they are very good.

All of which could have been accomplished with an intelligent, well-thought-out campaign aimed at educating people about these abuses rather than shock and scare tactics, assault or bizarre publicity stunts.

I don't know. I mean, it's not as if PETA doesn't have that as well...there's a lot of information out there from PETA that isn't the ridiculous stuff like comparing chickens to Holocaust victims, but it's the shock and scare tactics--as well as the overboard ridiculous stuff like this breast milk request and the Super Bowl ad--that get attention. There's a reason that this, the Super Bowl ad, the ads they put out after the guy was decapitated on the bus in Canada, et al are discussed here and elsewhere, but the less ridiculous stuff isn't. The intelligent, well-thought-out, educational campaigns don't garner the same attention as the shock tactics.

The Super Bowl ad was awesome, and not just because I'm a straight male. It was over the top and not quite educational, but it wasn't offensive (chicken Holocaust), insane (breast milk ice cream), or assault (red paint). When it's repeated 5,000 times, though, it becomes attention whoring and not just attention getting.