Yoda wrote: swyck wrote:
Pochucker wrote:This is interesting debate -- also unwinnable for either side. As someone else said anyone has a right to post anything basically. Everyone realizes people have different levels of interest in fantasy baseball. But it would seem to me that if you are regular contributor to this site then you must have fairly high level of interest in fantasy baseball. Thats where I start having a problem understanding people who do not want to play in competive leagues. To me It is no fun to crush people who dont have same interest or skill level. I understand that unfortanately there are many people who thrive and get off on that. I was always told that to get better at anything you must work/play with people better than you.
I have been in same league for 7 years and it gets better every year -- everyone has off year where family or professional matters prevent them from being as active as they need to be and that is understood, but if it continues more than a year then we remove that owner(doesent matter who it is) --with the caveat that if their situation changes they move to top of waiting list.
Very good points, but I don't think this thread has been about being competitive or active.
Some of the bashing I've seen seems to be along the lines of absolutely no one can be dropped. Leagues are called Mickey Mouse because Justin Upton has been dropped. Justin who? You mean the sub .200 hitter who is SUPPOSED to maybe be a superstar some day? So you need to keep him rotting on your bench even though your 2b is under performing and Aaron Hill is a FA?
IMO context is everything. Leagues have different bench and roster sizes, and teams have changing needs, and players that were sleepers could just totally stink. If I already have 4 OF that are doing fine and Justin Upton was a sleeper pick at the end of the draft not even cracking my starting lineup, and I see a Gallaraga or Lind or Konerko or Hill or Downs that are available to fill a need on my team then Upton is gone! That is being competitive. Hanging on to someone because of pre-season hype is not being competitive.
Not meaning to bash you or anything, but since I responded to three posts in this link you can tell I'm more then a little bit annoyed by fantasy elitists, and WILL fire back at them at every opportunity. Off the Pigs!
True... I should stay competitive by dumping Rollins who is struggling, for Marco Scutaro.
Just to be devil's advocate Yoda, I know your not comparing Rollins to Justin Upton. Ok, so he's suppose to be somebody, but how many times have we seen somebody not pan out? Quite often. Or maybe it's a shallow league and Upton while one person thinks Upton should be sat on, another doesn't. Or maybe a team realizes there's a guy that will help in SB and AVG while hitting less power then Upton on the WW; but they are unable to trade away Upton. If everybody thought the same, would anything be fun? There would be no need for a mock draft, because the players would already be lined out for us. Everybody is going to favor different people. And I go back to Verlander of last year. Just because somebody had a gut feel about Verlander last year and cut him early, does that make it a mickey mouse league? At the time of dropping Verlander, I'm 99% sure you (not specifically you, but everyone) would have said yes. Because many predicted him to be the only 20 game winner in baseball. So somebody can have a gut call about a sleeper or a breakout, but not about a guy struggling?
On the flip side, yes it's only the first month of the season. It's dumb to give up on somebody you spent such a high pick (for argument sake, let's say anything above a 12th round) unless they go down with an injury. You thought they would do something, give them time to do it. If they continue to struggling throughout all of May; sure give it some thought about dumping them.
And yes, some of these moves are lame, but just lumping them all into "mickey mouse" leagues is just as dumb as dropping your 5th round pick less then a month into the season because of a "slump". I think you have to partially wait and see how players work out, and who they picked up. It's really a league by league analysis.