Matthias wrote:Madison wrote:Just random thoughts...
As to it "having no meaning", that's horse pucky to say it nicely. People talk to the God of their choice every single day of their lives. Does that make each conversation meaningless? When you think of the 9/11 attacks, is that meaningless to you? How about for those who live in New York? Think it's meaningless to them each time they think of the attacks? Not to mention that this guy says he didn't know the rule, which means it's the first game he's been to since the attacks. How many others were doing and experiencing this for the first time (meaning it had meaning)? Yankee tickets aren't cheap. So yes, it certainly has meaning.
Horse pucky, eh? Sorry, Mad.... I live in NYC, I go to Yankees games, I've sat through this crap. It has no meaning. Don't give me your conjecture, "I'm going to ignore the facts but create a reality that fits them." And I've been to Yankees games since 2001, probably two dozen of them, and I can tell you that I didn't know this rule of the Yankees, so it's very possible that he's been to other games since then as well.
As far as the timeliness of his suit, pfah. It takes forever to get crap together. The article doesn't say if the suit was just filed, if the parties attempted any type of negotiation before it was filed, or if there has been pre-litigation discovery going on, or anything. So it's pretty ridiculous to say that him filing his suit 7 months after the occurrence is, "far after the fact." It really isn't. And that is a fact. Besides, who knows? For all we know, the ACLU was waiting until Opening Day to see if the Yankees were going to continue the policy because if they were seeking a change to the rule, their suit would be voided for mootness if the Yankees changed their policy for 2009.
Just because remembering 9/11 may be meaningless to you, that doesn't make it meaningless to everyone.
The timeline is really irrelevant, filing at any point beyond the time he learned what that time was set aside for was too long after the fact. A snap decision to file a lawsuit not knowing that this was a remembrance ceremony is something I can understand (as long as the lawsuit is dropped once that fact has been learned), but filing anyway after knowing why that takes place is wrong.
Matthias wrote:Madison wrote:So this guy is giving a big middle finger to all those that died and all those who's lives were affected by the terrorist attacks of 9/11 by suing over it at this point, and I flat don't see how anyone can agree with this guy. If he doesn't like the rule, fine, no biggie, that's his right to disagree with it. Send a letter, boycott the Yankees, go to Mets games instead, watch on TV, or whatever else, but his rights do not override everyone else's rights. His self-entitled attitude is sickening.
What "right" of everyone else's is he overriding? Please name it.
Also, wanting to leave your seat in the middle of a meaningless rememberence is hardly giving a finger to everyone who has died. That's just crazy talk.
Do I agree with the merits of this guy's lawsuit? No, not really. I don't think it violates his religious or political beliefs to have him keep his seat in his seat. But I do think the little "tribute" that the Yankees do every game is devoid of meaning and I've never paid attention, but I'd be pretty shocked if everyone stayed in their seat for it... I've certainly never paid any attention to it one way or another. But as far off base you think this guy is, your evaluation of his situation is about 5 times further.
The right to not be disturbed while remembering 9/11 in a place and at a time where the establishment's owner has provided both the place and specific time.
Matter of opinion on the meaning of it all, but him showing that kind of disrespect shows me all I need to know about him.
I hope the judge hits him with court costs as he gets laughed out of court. I mean it's comical that this guy is going to say that a rememberance ceremony for the tragedy of 9/11 is meaningless... in a court of law... in New York (!)... and expect to get money out of it.