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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby cnote23 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:47 pm

Big Pimpin wrote:I love AJ and think he's going to be a stud. For this year I'd rather have Milledge, but I expect their BA to be similar, Jones to outhomer Milledge while Milledge outsteals Jones, and runs and RBIs are a crapshoot based on where they hit. If AJ hits second between BRob and Markakis, he could surprise a lot of people.
Good point well in most of my leagues I have them both. ;-D
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby San D » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:06 pm

cnote23 wrote:
Big Pimpin wrote:I love AJ and think he's going to be a stud. For this year I'd rather have Milledge, but I expect their BA to be similar, Jones to outhomer Milledge while Milledge outsteals Jones, and runs and RBIs are a crapshoot based on where they hit. If AJ hits second between BRob and Markakis, he could surprise a lot of people.
Good point well in most of my leagues I have them both. ;-D


I like Milledge long term but I always consider PT issues for my evaluations before a draft. Yes, Milledge is a starter, but Milledge, Dukes, Nick Johnson, Kearns, Willingham, and Wily Mo are the candidates for three spots. Milledge along with Johnson and Dukes are the winners, but you have to think that the other three would eat into some of their AB's unless trades are made or injuries happen. :-? :-P

Jones has no such concern.
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby killertofu2222 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:25 pm

San D wrote:
cnote23 wrote:
Big Pimpin wrote:I love AJ and think he's going to be a stud. For this year I'd rather have Milledge, but I expect their BA to be similar, Jones to outhomer Milledge while Milledge outsteals Jones, and runs and RBIs are a crapshoot based on where they hit. If AJ hits second between BRob and Markakis, he could surprise a lot of people.
Good point well in most of my leagues I have them both. ;-D


I like Milledge long term but I always consider PT issues for my evaluations before a draft. Yes, Milledge is a starter, but Milledge, Dukes, Nick Johnson, Kearns, Willingham, and Wily Mo are the candidates for three spots. Milledge along with Johnson and Dukes are the winners, but you have to think that the other three would eat into some of their AB's unless trades are made or injuries happen. :-? :-P

Jones has no such concern.


you really think austin kearns and nick johnson are going to cut into lasting milledge's playing time? come on buddy, you forgot adam dunn anyway...none of them are going to cut into his pt. he's full-time
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby San D » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:38 pm

killertofu2222 wrote:
San D wrote:
cnote23 wrote:Good point well in most of my leagues I have them both. ;-D


I like Milledge long term but I always consider PT issues for my evaluations before a draft. Yes, Milledge is a starter, but Milledge, Dukes, Nick Johnson, Kearns, Willingham, and Wily Mo are the candidates for three spots. Milledge along with Johnson and Dukes are the winners, but you have to think that the other three would eat into some of their AB's unless trades are made or injuries happen. :-? :-P

Jones has no such concern.


you really think austin kearns and nick johnson are going to cut into lasting milledge's playing time? come on buddy, you forgot adam dunn anyway...none of them are going to cut into his pt. he's full-time


Yes I do. Dunn is safe at LF or 1B so I didn't include him. Milledge, Dukes, and Johnson are the obvious winners, but I can easily see Willingham cutting into someone's PT. Kearns will get some AB's as well. I may be overstating the risk and the impact, but it is something to have in the back of your mind. It would definitely lean me towards Jones.
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby killertofu2222 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:47 pm

i'm sorry but i really cannot see nick johnson taking flyballs in centerfield. i don't think the gods of the outfield will allow it. kearns is too bad to take away any pt, and willingham will split time in right if anything.

milledge is going to get 600 ab's leading off in that lineup, if he stays healthy of course.
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby San D » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:59 pm

killertofu2222 wrote:i'm sorry but i really cannot see nick johnson taking flyballs in centerfield. i don't think the gods of the outfield will allow it. kearns is too bad to take away any pt, and willingham will split time in right if anything.

milledge is going to get 600 ab's leading off in that lineup, if he stays healthy of course.


I hope you're right for Milledge's sake. Dukes plays a decent CF though and can slide there to accommodate Willingham or Kearns. I just won't draft any Nats outfielders/first baseman other tham maybe Dunn. I think the only one that could really erupt and make me kick myself is Dukes, but he's too much of a head case to worry about.
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby RAmst23 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:51 pm

Even if Dukes plays some CF, how many ABs would that really steal from Milledge? Even if Dukes plays 15-20 games at center, you would still see over 500 PAs from Milledge because he's leading off.

PT should be a factor for the other OFs, but not Milledge.
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby Yoda » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:44 pm

You guys are drinking some serious Kool Aid if you think Milledge's playing time is guaranteed. With other viable options, if he starts off slow, he'd be riding the pine so fast. Even if he doesn't start off slow, I'm willing to bet that if the other guys are playing well, he'll sit some games.

Right now, I'd probably lean towards AJ just because he is cheaper and actually has a guaranteed job.
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby OneLoveBoomer » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:11 pm

Milledge will go 20-25.
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Re: Milledge VS. Adam Jones

Postby stumpak » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:10 am

Yoda wrote:You guys are drinking some serious Kool Aid if you think Milledge's playing time is guaranteed. With other viable options, if he starts off slow, he'd be riding the pine so fast. Even if he doesn't start off slow, I'm willing to bet that if the other guys are playing well, he'll sit some games.

Right now, I'd probably lean towards AJ just because he is cheaper and actually has a guaranteed job.


Sure this could happen, but it is predicated on a lot of "ifs" that make the odds pretty remote:

If milledge struggles badly - odds of this are very low to begin with
If Johnson stays healthy and Kearns and Willingham are not splitting time in RF to begin with (and Kearns does not have the most sterling injury history himself)
If Dukes does not crap his own pants and remaines a viable solution to take over for a struggling Milledge
If Acta is stupid enough not to realize that Kearns hasn't been a decent hitter in years

Even if Milledge really stinks, I see the Nats dropping him the order rather than benching him. I don't think his leash is that short.
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