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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:39 pm
by CubsFan7724
Frack at BJ Ryan. I might as well punt saves in my H2H holds league, since my bullpen is Ryan/Hoffman/Putz/Saito, and go for 4 holds guys.

Closer by committee in Toronto if Ryan can't go?

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:36 pm
by T-Bone Costanza
Yeah, that Seattle blurb really has me wondering what the deal is with Aardsma. I was thinking he is in the running because there was alot of good hype around him this week. Hopefully the author of the article just overlooked him.

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:46 pm
by Havok1517
Just read on rotoworld that Morrow is apparently not going to open the year in the rotation due to his forearm tenderness but also will not be an option at closer. He looks to find time in the pen until he feels healthy enough to start. If his forearm is sore, I doubt he'd have the same stuff to close right now anyways.

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:00 pm
by Geek
Havok1517 wrote:Just read on rotoworld that Morrow is apparently not going to open the year in the rotation due to his forearm tenderness but also will not be an option at closer. He looks to find time in the pen until he feels healthy enough to start. If his forearm is sore, I doubt he'd have the same stuff to close right now anyways.


In other words, Morrow has absolutely no fantasy value. !+)

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:10 pm
by Zhangman1
any chance ryan perry gets the closer job in Det this year?

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:34 pm
by silverZ
Zhangman1 wrote:any chance ryan perry gets the closer job in Det this year?


I doubt it. He might get a shot if Rodney and Lyon blow 10-15 saves between them in the first 2-3 months, and Zumaya can't get healthy.

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:36 pm
by mweir145
metsfan12 wrote:
mweir145 wrote:
metsfan12 wrote:
Yeah but Accardo was out injured and last time he was really health he was closing and doing a good job of it.

That was over 1.5 years ago. He hasn't proven himself to be the same pitcher yet.

We won't know who it will be, or even if it won't be Ryan, until the season starts most likely.

If you say so, but I think I have a pretty good read on this one. Cito used Downs several times for saves last year when BJ couldn't go (5 saves in total), and I expect him to go with his most dependable reliever just like he did last year. Pick up who you want, but I'll stick with Downs for now.


You can think you have some sort of good read on it all you want but you should atleast get some good info. Of those 5 saves he had last year they were all early in the year and only 2 of them were full inning saves. One of those 2 was in the 10th inning after BJ Ryan had pitched the 9th. So he had one time he was actually used as the closer and got the save. The 3 partial inning saves just show what he really is, a very good lefty specialist. My point was that what Cito did last year doesn't prove anything because Accardo was not available. I guess you felt the need to repeat that Downs was used in the 8th last year again for some reason though. So you have some proof that Downs MIGHT be the guy when Accardo isn't available. Great read.

I'm basically a walking encyclopedia of Jays information and most people know that here, but fine, here's some "good info:"

Gaston suggested he expects Ryan would let him know if he doesn't feel he can answer the bell as the Jays closer by the time the regular season begins in a little over a week.

The manager said he would have left-hander Scott Downs slide into Ryan's spot should that eventuality arise.

http://sports.theglobeandmail.com/servl ... ys-ryan-27

Do you still want to challenge my read on the situation?

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:38 pm
by smoovethug
Geek wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Just read on rotoworld that Morrow is apparently not going to open the year in the rotation due to his forearm tenderness but also will not be an option at closer. He looks to find time in the pen until he feels healthy enough to start. If his forearm is sore, I doubt he'd have the same stuff to close right now anyways.


In other words, Morrow has absolutely no fantasy value. !+)


I wouldn't go that far at all. When he gets right I expect him to be put into the rotation where he'll definitely have value.

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:41 pm
by mweir145
Oh, and BJ had a relatively clean inning yesterday, but I was told that JP got up out of his seat behind the Jays dugout to go look at the radar guns once BJ started pitching. Then he talked to some others in the organization before going back to his seat. It may not be a huge issue, but it is one that JP is clearly paying close attention to.

Re: 2009 Closers Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:58 pm
by GiantsFan14
smoovethug wrote:
Geek wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Just read on rotoworld that Morrow is apparently not going to open the year in the rotation due to his forearm tenderness but also will not be an option at closer. He looks to find time in the pen until he feels healthy enough to start. If his forearm is sore, I doubt he'd have the same stuff to close right now anyways.


In other words, Morrow has absolutely no fantasy value. !+)


I wouldn't go that far at all. When he gets right I expect him to be put into the rotation where he'll definitely have value.


nope he has no value whatsoever, anyone who drafted him wasted a pick and might as well drop him.