KCollins1304 wrote:Neato Torpedo wrote:KCollins1304 wrote:
You have come off in a matter that said, "The Cubs run their organization the way that teams should be run and the Yankees don't do it right". That is why the discussion has morphed into arguing over who spent what and who acquired who. If you want a salary cap that's fine, I'm not completely opposed to one depending on exactly how it worked. You make it sound like the Yankees are murdering babies when they're just doing what they should be doing, spending the most amount that they can while making the largest profit possible. That is how capitalism works.
I have never said or implied that the Cubs are the ideal organization. I only said that the two teams are run differently (edit: and that the Cubs are run better). And they are. I still hold to the claim that what the Yankees are doing takes no real managerial or strategic skill. If there was a cap, they'd be forced to allocate money well, instead of just throwing money at the problem to fix it. The Cubs did that with Marquis, Dempster (the second time around), and Lilly, and I still think it's wrong. But the effect of signing those three players is much less than the signing of CC and Teixeira in terms of the league's competitive balance.
I wasn't around here in the '06-'07 offseason when the Cubs signed Lilly and Marquis, but I definitely bitched to my friends about it. Lilly was a pleasant surprise and was worth the $12 million over the last two seasons, but I don't see him being worth the rest of his contract which takes a huge step up in '09 and '10. Still, knowing what I knew then I'd still be against it.
What about the way the Cubs are run is better than the Yankees? The Yankees don't just sign anyone, they definitely weren't interested in Zito, Silva, Lilly, Meche, Millwood, or Marquis. Spending your money on a few huge free agents is a lot better than getting a group of mediocres. For example, Lily and Marquis' combined salaries are pretty similar to Sabathia. Who wouldn't rather have Sabathia at his salary? I say it took some skill for the Yankees to resist spending on those kinds of players and make a big play on a marquee player like Sabathia. For the Cubs being better run, the Yankees are still winning more games and making more money on a yearly basis.
IMO it doesn't take much skill or cajones to sign a player coming off a 2.70/1.12/251 season and one year removed from a Cy Young award. I'm not going to justify the signing of Lilly or Marquis, though, because that takes just as much strategic proficiency as signing Sabathia. I'm just saying that apart from Soriano, the Cubs' best players were either homegrown or came from trades. And trades usually count as "being run well" because either you have to draft good prospects and raise them well in order for them to have good trade value, or you have to have good enough scouting and player development to take on other teams young players and make them good.