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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby mweir145 » Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:29 pm

And to the argument above, bunting is stupid. It reeks of NL baseball. I wouldn't have bunted with Kendrick, and I certainly wouldn't have bunted with Aybar. Let them hit, and chances are they would have scored that run, with the potential for more.
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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby RynMan » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:12 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
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Because with a fastball pitcher, 2-0 count and your best bunter batting and only needing to score 1 run to possibly win the game, thats one of your best options?


Did they have any pinch hitters available? Aybar pretty much killed the Angels at the plate this series.


I don't see how you go for a squeeze with one out. All you need is a sac fly to get the lead run home. If you can't trust your hitters to at least attempt to hit the ball to the outfield, then....I don't know. I'm not even sure what to say. But risking that run with a squeeze just seems like a bad move. That's a play that's going to haunt the Angels for a while.


I agree. I just don't like the play. They had plenty of hitters to sub in that could have hit a deep fly ball and Wood to sub in on defense.
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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby Yoda » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:31 pm

I don't see a problem with the play. It was one play and had it gone the other way, everyone would be saying what a genius Sciocia is.
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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby Grouperman941 » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:04 pm

Yoda wrote:I don't see a problem with the play. It was one play and had it gone the other way, everyone would be saying what a genius Sciocia is.


It was a high % play. Aybar just blew it. He should have Rudy Stein-ed one of those knuckle-busters, giving them guys on first and third. Willits should have made a dive or slide for third, too.
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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby mweir145 » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:04 pm

Yoda wrote:I don't see a problem with the play. It was one play and had it gone the other way, everyone would be saying what a genius Sciocia is.

I'd probably still be calling it stupid NL baseball.
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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby RynMan » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:08 am

mweir145 wrote:
Yoda wrote:I don't see a problem with the play. It was one play and had it gone the other way, everyone would be saying what a genius Sciocia is.

I'd probably still be calling it stupid NL baseball.


Yeah, even if they had pulled it off, I'd still have thought that it was the wrong move.
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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby markj11 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:23 am

RynMan wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:
Mugrila wrote:
Did they have any pinch hitters available? Aybar pretty much killed the Angels at the plate this series.


I don't see how you go for a squeeze with one out. All you need is a sac fly to get the lead run home. If you can't trust your hitters to at least attempt to hit the ball to the outfield, then....I don't know. I'm not even sure what to say. But risking that run with a squeeze just seems like a bad move. That's a play that's going to haunt the Angels for a while.


I agree. I just don't like the play. They had plenty of hitters to sub in that could have hit a deep fly ball and Wood to sub in on defense.


I don't see anything wrong with the sqeeze. Bunting should be one of easiest things to do in baseball, much easier than hitting a deep fly ball.
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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby RynMan » Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:47 pm

markj11 wrote:I don't see anything wrong with the sqeeze. Bunting should be one of easiest things to do in baseball, much easier than hitting a deep fly ball.


Well for me, it's not a question about how easy it is to execute, it's about the level or risk involved. If the squeeze play was such an easy play to pull off managers would do it all the time instead of looking for a deep fly ball....
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Re: To all of the Angels fans...

Postby The Artful Dodger » Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:32 pm

I think it was a good call that Scioscia made. This wasn't the first time the Angels had ran a suicide squeeze play and they had done quite well in the situations where they've played them. The bottom of the order for the Angels had been atrocious all series long, Aybar in particular, and in general they had labored a bit hitting with men in scoring position. Aybar is a for-contact hitter and even with a guy with speed at 3rd in Willits, Aybar isn't likely to hit a flyball deep enough to score Willits. The main reason most folks had flak with the squeeze play is just because of the timing of it all.
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