jfg wrote:No Mauer in your top 10 Bronx? I think I'd have him at least at #2. A player who's team is not in the playoffs should win MVP this year considering Pedroia doesn't deserve it (even though he'll probably win it). I'd have to say if I'm going to choose a player and not look at the standing I'd go ARod or Mauer. Morneau's RBI would not be there if it weren't for Mauer and I don't think there's a better defensive catcher in the game. It's not right that a catcher gets penalized for missing games. That should be negated by the fact that if good enough, the catcher is the most important player on the team.
But, I don't get why ARod is getting dumped on. He had as good of a season, if not better than anybody in the AL.
Mauer is an interesting case. His numbers really don't compare to the rest of the guys I listed, but he does get a big boost in value because he's a catcher. His VORP ranks right up there at 56.4 and he's also one of the league leaders in Win Shares. Still though, he doesn't really have much else going for him. His OPS, RC, etc. don't stack up with the rest of the guys. If you wanted to stick him somewhere at the end of my list, I probably wouldn't have a gripe with that. As I said, that was just a rough list I put together in about 15-20 minutes. I could probably do a better job if I spent some more time.
It's sad that A-Rod is getting overlooked but Quentin still seems to be getting so much love. The only reason he doesn't get more love from me is because of the time he missed. His OPS, VORP, WS are all great. He lags behind in RC because he missed games. Had it not been for the injury, A-Rod is easily the 2008 MVP. Even his counting stats would have projected somewhere around 40 HR and 120 RBI, which might have given him a chance to actually win the award.
MasterX1918 wrote:I agree without you, but sadly the team he's on isn't quite good enough for him to win mvp. It's the same reason why Josh Hamilton isn't seen in discussions any more. Pujols is a different story though due to his great numbers that nobody else comes close too. I still think Manny should be in discussions though since he is, in my mind, the sole reason that the Dodgers won the NL West. the AL really doesn't have a clear cut MVP; they should just give it to Hamilton to complete the script for his movie.
Oh, I don't expect Sizemore to finish anywhere near the MVP. His counting stats aren't that great looking on the surface. But looking at RC, VORP, etc. I think he's got just as good and probably a better case to win the MVP than any of the other guys. I disagree with Manny. He absolutely dominated the last two months, but 2 months of Manny still doesn't come near 6 months of others. It simply isn't comparable. Sure, Manny's presence might have put the Dodgers over the top in THEIR division, but that doesn't mean he was the most valuable. If he had played a full season, or even most of a season with that production, sure, but 2 months to 6 months is incomparable, IMO.