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Here are the five most boring things in the world, in order:
5. Slowed-down time-lapse photography of a small puddle of room-temperature water evaporating.
4. Two people you have never met, wearing identical colorless shirts and pants, talking about the dreams they had last night.
3. Debating what "Valuable" means w/r/t "Most Valuable Player."
2. Lying in a sensory deprivation tank and staring straight ahead at a blank wall while you listen to white noise.
1. Ann Coulter
SpecialFNK wrote:obviously Pujols helped the Cardinals to more wins than Manny did for LA because he had 4 extra months. if the Dodgers had not traded for Manny and stuck with what they had im willing to bet my last $ they dont make the playoffs. Mannys time in LA is what pushed them ahead of Arizona. the fact that LA seasonal win total is only 84 doesnt have to do with Manny. he wasnt there prior to the trade to have been any help to them during that time.
Mannys 1st game with LA was August 1st. he played 2 months with LA. during that time period the Dodgers were 30-24 including 17-8 in September. Manny and the huge numbers he put up were largely responsible for the Dodgers success. his value is what got them into the playoffs. the Cardinals during that same time period were 25-26.
were back to the word valuable. Manny was more valuable to the Dodgers in his 2 months than Pujols was to the Cardinals in his 6 months. the evidence is the fact that the Dodgers got into the playoffs and the Cardinals didnt.
ill say again, the Most Valuable Player is not an award for the best player. its which player was more valuable to his teams success, and it also has to do with that teams success in the playoff race. fair or not that just the way it has always been. there are plenty of examples in the past to support that such as 2006 with Justin Morneau. mentioned 2006 also brings up what happened in the NL. you could argue that season the award should have gone to Pujols, who was on a Cardinals team that made the playoffs, but the award instead went to Howard on the Phillies who finished 12 games behind the Mets. (allthough the Phillies were 2 games better than the Cardinals)
the award is VALUABLE. if it went to the BEST player it would be called something else like most outstanding.
im not saying Pujols isnt deserving, im saying i feel Howard or even Ramirez are a little more deserving.
SpecialFNK wrote:Ryan Howard is the cleanup hitter for the Phillies. what is his job? his job is to hit HR and drive in runs. he did that better than anyone else in baseball.
SpecialFNK wrote:Howard is the best hitter on the Phillies team. the 2nd best hitter would be Ultley. Ludwick the 2nd best hitter on St.Louis has better stats than Utley.
HOOTIE wrote:SpecialFNK wrote:Howard is the best hitter on the Phillies team. the 2nd best hitter would be Ultley. Ludwick the 2nd best hitter on St.Louis has better stats than Utley.
Not this year he wasn't. Utley was.
125 runs created to 111. Utley also had the higher OPS and rc/27.
SpecialFNK wrote:heres the rest.
92 H, 83 R, 17 D, 3 T, 26 HR, 124 RBI
85 H, 80 R, 17 D, 0 T, 17 HR, 96 RBI
56 H, 61 R, 11 D, 0 T, 12 HR, 90 RBI
39 H, 70 R, 12 D, 0 T, 9 HR, 75 RBI
RISP w 2 outs
44 H, 40 R, 5 D, 0 T, 5 HR, 35 RBI
14 H, 36 R, 5 D, 0 T, 5 HR, 24 RBI
SpecialFNK wrote:how a team finishes does have to be considered. thats why its the MVP as in valuable.
BronXBombers51 wrote:HOOTIE, do you know much about the different variations of RC? ESPN seems to have one set of stats, Baseball Reference another and The Hardball Times another. Bloody Sox said THT claims to use the most complex...any insight on this?
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