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DSheppard wrote:Thought of this thread when I head tony kornheiser say he would split the mvp between cc/manny
SpecialFNK wrote:voting for the MVP is done by human voting. i doubt when they vote they look up what win shares players have. i also doubt they look up OPS+ or any other deep type stat that isnt easily found. there are 2 big stats that jump out to voters, and thats HR and RBI. not including todays game Howard has 48 HR and 146 RBI.
its also looked at what players do in key situations, such as helping their teams in playoff races. Howard has been huge in September for Philadelphia.
SpecialFNK wrote:people talk about Pujols as if he was the only decent hitter the Cardinals had and the only reason why they they were even able to finish 4th in their own division, maybe they should check the lineup again.
Ryan Ludwick ? 37 HR (same as Pujols), 113 RBI (3 behind Pujols), 104 R (4 more than Pujols), 40 doubles (4 behind Pujols), .299 AVG/ .375 OBP/ .591 SLG/ .966 OPS/
Troy Glaus ? 27 HR, 99 RBI
Rick Ankiel ? (120 games) 25 HR, 71 RBI
Howard is the best hitter on the Phillies team. the 2nd best hitter would be Ultley. Ludwick the 2nd best hitter on St.Louis has better stats than Utley.
please dont throw around the other hitters in the Phillies lineup, epscially considering the down year Rollins had.
SpecialFNK wrote:HR and RBI have always been 2 big stats in baseball. thats a big reason why Howard won back in 2006 with 58 HR and 149 RBI.
positions a player plays shouldnt mean anything when considering them for MVP unless your taking into account what they do defensively at that position. just for arguments sake if Utley was to move to LF next season and have the exact same offensive stats, they wouldnt mean as much because he would be playing LF? if offensive numbers a player puts up mean more for certain positions then why dont teams take some of their better hitters and move them to these weaker postions? the Cardinals have a bunch of OF so maybe they should consider moving Ludwick to 2B next season, he could be much more valuable to them right? a move i highly doubt would happen. if these players are as athletic as they should be they shouldnt have such a problem becoming comfortable to a new postion defensively.
SpecialFNK wrote:Ryan Howard is the cleanup hitter for the Phillies. what is his job? his job is to hit HR and drive in runs. he did that better than anyone else in baseball.
alot of talk about his low overall AVG. how about some other season stats..
runners on- .309 AVG/ .396 OBP/ .648 SLG/ 1.044 OPS/
RISP- .320 AVG/ .439 OBP/ .589 SLG/ 1.028 OPS/
RISP w 2 outs- .322 AVG/ .468 OBP/ .552 SLG/ 1.020 OPS/
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