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bigwords wrote:Your points are good, BronXBombers51. I stated earlier in the thread that the Yankees are in a tough position due to contracts and players who will be hard to trade and almost impossible to move. I'd love to move Jeter to dh/1b, but I realize that it probably won't happen.
A few quibbles:
I do think that Cano might go. There's a lot of buzz he might be traded.
I don't think Melky is a "great" defender. Compared to the rest, perhaps, but overall, he's not great.
I'd like to see them upgrade defensively at C, 1b (hello, Teixeira), 2b (hello, Mark Ellis), CF, and either LF or RF (wherever Nady isn't playing). I'd like to do that by not re-signing guys and trading others. Can they trade Matsui or Posada? It probably would be tough, but not impossible. That would be a start. I just don't see them making the playoffs again without these moves, even if they sign Sabatthia.
bigwords wrote:"If Wang and Joba stayed healthy in the rotation pitching like they should then they would be in the playoffs."
Doubt it. As good a season as Tim Lincecum has had, he's only contributed 8 wins to the Giants ledger, according to the stat known as Win Shares. Brandon Webb? 6 contributed wins. Jake Peavy? 5 contributed wins. (I won't get into the complicated stat, but if anybody really cares, go here: http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/artic ... e-arrived/)
Yankees are 8 games out of first and 6 1/2 games out of the wild card so I just don't see a full season of Wang and Joba making the difference. Seems to make sense. But sorry, stats don't bear you out.
bigwords wrote:Hardball Times.
Winshares divided by three tells you how many wins a pitcher has contributed to his team.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/m ... ESC&page=1
A pitcher may win a game, but that doesn't mean he's solely responsible for the win. He's only wins a game if his offense scores runs and if his defense contributes too. Thus, Lincecum may have 17 wins, but he may be solely responsible for 8 of them. Every game, each player is apportioned a "share" of the win and the shares are added to total a player's "win shares." Like I said, too complicated to go into. But it's highly unlikely that Joba and Wang would have netted the 7 wins needed to make the playoffs. And like I also pointed out, if you gave Boston and Tampa a fully healthy slate too, that would also minimize any differential gains.
Yoda wrote:If Wang and Joba stayed healthy in the rotation pitching like they should then they would be in the playoffs.
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