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Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:37 am
by ataraxia
Well...with the Red Sox thus far, he's been absolutely phenomenal, with ballpark effects being quite evident.

However, another very positive note for him has been his 3 SBs since joining the Red Sox--either the organization has asked him to be persistent on the bases, or he's simply caring more.

Either way, he's been awesome for me and I hope he keeps moving up higher in the lineup. ;-D

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:04 pm
by tmlfan4ever
Red Sox run a lot, we knew that. Hopefully it continues.

He could easily go 30HR-15SB

In a pretty soft 10 team league, I was able to grab him in the 15th round sandwiched between Joe Borowski and Ken Griffey Jr.

That is HUGE value.

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:31 pm
by RunReyesRun
He's definitely been great with the Sox so far I definitely expect it to continue.

In the back of my mind I still have that horrible 2007 season...what happened!?!?

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:47 pm
by RedSoxNation04
RunReyesRun wrote:He's definitely been great with the Sox so far I definitely expect it to continue.

In the back of my mind I still have that horrible 2007 season...what happened!?!?

Injuries...which he is obviously past now. Looking forward to next year when he gets a full season of playing in Fenway.

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:51 pm
by RedSoxNation04
tmlfan4ever wrote:Red Sox run a lot, we knew that. Hopefully it continues.

He could easily go 30HR-15SB

In a pretty soft 10 team league, I was able to grab him in the 15th round sandwiched between Joe Borowski and Ken Griffey Jr.

That is HUGE value.

Sox are definitely running more as a team and I think you will see this trend continue next year. With Manny gone, the Sox become more dependent on manufacturing runs rather than just getting on base and waiting for the HR. IMO Bay could very well contribute a 20 SB season next year.

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:48 pm
by thedude
The thing that made Bay a top 20 pick a few years back was his steals. In 2005 he hit over 30 homers, had over 20 steals and hit over .300. The guy is a phenomenal baserunner. He isn't that quick but he knows how to run the bases. Since the start of 2005 he has 46 steals in 50 attempts.

ataraxia wrote:Well...with the Red Sox thus far, he's been absolutely phenomenal, with ballpark effects being quite evident.


Ballpark effects have nothing to do with it.

His Slugging% in Fenway is .552
His slugging% as a member of the Red Sox is .561
His Slugging% in PNC was .571

His batting average with the Red Sox is .348.
His batting average in Fenway is .345.

Obviously he is seeing some benefit from playing for Boston, but most it probably coming from the presence of real protection in the lineup (Youkilis, Ortiz, Drew, ect...) and the joy of playing for a contender.

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:15 pm
by RedSoxNation04
thedude wrote:The thing that made Bay a top 20 pick a few years back was his steals. In 2005 he hit over 30 homers, had over 20 steals and hit over .300. The guy is a phenomenal baserunner. He isn't that quick but he knows how to run the bases. Since the start of 2005 he has 46 steals in 50 attempts.

ataraxia wrote:Well...with the Red Sox thus far, he's been absolutely phenomenal, with ballpark effects being quite evident.


Ballpark effects have nothing to do with it.


FWIW, I'd rather see your numbers at the end of the year when he's played more than 8 games at Fenway. Too small of a sample size to make statements of that effect.

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:28 pm
by StlSluggers
It has long been theorized that he'd be phenomenal if someone actually had to pitch to him.

I'd say we've just about proven that theory.

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:45 pm
by Yoda
RedSoxNation04 wrote:FWIW, I'd rather see your numbers at the end of the year when he's played more than 8 games at Fenway. Too small of a sample size to make statements of that effect.


Agreed.

Re: Jason Bay thread.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:09 am
by AllDay
Manny gets hot as a Dodger and there are allegations he tanked it in Boston.

Maybe Bay was tanking it in Pittsburgh, too.