RugbyD wrote:So then a suitable, proportionate punishment for overstaying a visa is death. OK, got it.
Are you really going to claim that b/c someone overstayed a visa that the immigration employees bear zero responsibility for seemingly breaking all sorts of rules and ignoring what appear to be clear signs of severe health problems while he was in their custody and under their purview and therefore their responsibility (its not like he was a cancer-ridden homless guy passed out on a street corner that they chose to step over), eventually leading to a life-and-death situation that they could and, according to the job description, should have prevented? How can you seriously claim that what appears to be a complete dereliction of duty only played a negligible, if any, part in Ng's death?
Bah, you went extremist much faster than you usually do Rugby. You're slipping. Tsk, tsk.
Why stick words into my mouth though? That's extremely low and stretching more than you typically do. Is it really that hard for you to lay the blame where it goes instead of covering up and making excuses for idiots?
I didn't say the guy deserved to die, I said none of this would have happened if he had done what he was supposed to do.
I also didn't say there were zero problems in the immigration department and they are 100% not at fault for anything. I said: "Of course it doesn't excuse what happened" and I also said: "The claims are secondary and worthy of an investigation by the authorities".
Yet not once have you said one word about Mr. Ng breaking the law, having any responsibility, or that this story could be one sided and not the whole truth.
'Tis ok though, you'd rather ignore one fact we know for sure (that Mr. Ng broke the law) and you've got zero ground to argue this situation, so you'd rather stick words in my mouth and go extremist on things I never said. Good for you. You win. It's really not that hard to realize and accept the fact that if Mr. Ng had simply obeyed the law (heaven forbid! ) none of this ever would have happened.
Self edit for a poor choice of words.