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thatguy27 wrote:Have both MVPs ever been second basemen before?
DSheppard wrote:They are two sides of the same coin, just at different lineup spots. Kinsler is a leadoff hitter with a .397 obp, a lot of extra base hits and 23 steals. This has a huge impact on how many rbis hamilton has. On the flipside, kinsler in his own right is on pace for a ridiculous 144 runs, with the same credit due to hamilton/bradley. They are both good in each category on their own, but have helped eachother into the next level.
And kinsler is on pace for 99 rbis, not exactly poor for a leadoff hitter.
He also leads hamilton in .ops, .945 to .919.
Kinsler leads the american league in batting average, hits, runs, total bases and extra base hits. He is top 7 in slugging, on base percentage and steals.
Hamilton has been awesome, but RBIs are his only one truly standout MVP type number and its the stat most dependant on your lineup.
A case can certainly be made for hamilton and I think he will be better post ASB than he was before it (aside from rbis), but you cant dismiss kinsler because a leadoff hitter cant stack up to a middle of the order hitter in rbis.
jfg wrote:Mourneau won an MVP that not many people felt was deserved two years ago. I could see him doing it again this year.
DbacksRback wrote:It could happen I think it would be odd if a leadoff hitter (sizemore) led the league in hr's
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