nebgib5 wrote:1.3X as many U.S. troops have died in the Iraq War as died on September 11th, and that's all on Bush. By some accounts about 200X as many Iraqi civilians have died as died on September 11th, but unfortunately not too many people care about that.
I highly disagree, 1.3X as many troops have died because America cares about the Iraqi civilians more than they care about the lives of our troops or our national security. We could have turned Iraq into a parking lot and not lost the life of one single soldier, but we didn't do that.
So yes, the total number of deaths are partly on Bush, but make no mistake, the lack of stones in America these days caused Iraq to go the way it did.
Here, I posted this once before:
Madison wrote:America is hated because Bush is a moron, or at least comes across that way. Countries do not understand what he's doing and I can't really blame them for that. Between Bush not being the brightest of bulbs, and too big of a percentage of the population not having the stomach and/or intelligence to deal with real life, he can't exactly explain it to everyone.
It's not that hard to follow though, here:
#1. Bin Laden attacks the Twin Towers.
#2. We learn for sure it was Bin Laden and he was hiding in Afghanistan.
#3. We demanded Afghanistan turn him over to us or we'd come get him.
#4. The group I keep referring to screams and cries that we cannot hurt the poor and innocent people in Afghanistan.
#5. Afghanistan then gives us the finger in response to our demands.
#6. Bush crumples like a cheap suit to the will of those without the stomach/intelligence and hits Afghanistan with a toy gun in a very weak attempt to make it look like countries still better not mess with us.
#7. Resulting in us not getting Bin Laden and appearing to only be the shell of a superpower to the rest of the world (weak, easy to take over - very bad for national security).
#7. The other part of America is sick to their stomaches that the country has become so weak wristed that we can no longer protect ourselves, and knows we just sent the entire world a clear message that now is the time to attack us, when we don't have the stones to defend our country.
#8. Bush needs to save face with those people, and make sure the world knows we have not grown as soft as it may appear because the last thing we need is a full blown war. At one time there'd be no doubt we'd win, but nowadays and with what we just showed with Afghanistan, exactly how many people in this country would pull up their skirts and run in fear, or stare perplexed and drooling like a deer caught in headlights if a real "war" broke out?
#9. Saddam! A bad man with bad intentions, perfect!
#10. Saddam refuses to let the U.N. in to investigate and look for WMD's.
#11. Feed the "WMD" line to the weak stomached so we can rid the world of an evil dictator (since ridding the world of an evil dictator alone isn't enough of a reason to get involved...).
#12, Fold to the outcry of the weak stomached again, turn the "war" into a policing action, and tie the hands of our soldiers.
#13. Watch our fine soldiers come home in bodybags because of it.
From #6 forward, Bush dropped the ball and has never recovered from it, it's only gotten worse. Saddest part is if the country had banded together, sucked it up, grew a pair, and understood that getting Bin Laden regardless of the costs (collateral damage, financial, whatever) truely was in the best interests of the country, there's a very, very good chance we never would have stepped foot in Iraq. Bush played politics to keep a select group happy, and it cost this country big time.
The world hates us because they do not understand what I outlined above and if Bush said what I just said to try to explain it, the Republican party would be completely toasted in elections for a very long time because people always look for someone to blame, even if it isn't necessarily that person's fault. And I'm not defending Bush at all, he flat blew it on multiple occasions and had many chances to fix things. He didn't, so he does still shoulder the majority of the blame. The whole thing is really clear as day though, even though many people either can't understand and acknowledge it, or refuse to see it and refuse to acknowledge it.