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Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:26 pm
by Yanks_Baby
George_Foreman wrote:Oh, and as for his career, I'll be surprised if he's back next year. Unless he gets some (more) surgery or something, I'm just not sure he'll want to put himself through it physically.

He may go for the 200 save 200 win mark if he's capable.

200 wins, 200 saves, 3000 k's, Cy young winner, low 3 era.

1st ballot HoFer for sure.

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:24 pm
by Field
I'll reserve judgement until a few more appearances. His lack of command is certainly concerning given his new arm slot. The command issues could just be rust, but it's more likely the new arm slot which will be difficult to adapt to.

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:30 pm
by Yoda
Yanks_Baby wrote:1st ballot HoFer for sure.


Is he though? I would think he is a HOFer but none of his comps are in the HOF. This might be due to the fact that he spent several years in the pen but still, I'm not sure if he is a 1st ballot.

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:59 pm
by activechamp2006
Yanks_Baby wrote:
George_Foreman wrote:Oh, and as for his career, I'll be surprised if he's back next year. Unless he gets some (more) surgery or something, I'm just not sure he'll want to put himself through it physically.

He may go for the 200 save 200 win mark if he's capable.

200 wins, 200 saves, 3000 k's, Cy young winner, low 3 era.

1st ballot HoFer for sure.


1st ballot? Maybe if he saves 40 for the next few years.

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:20 pm
by Yanks_Baby
Yoda wrote:
Yanks_Baby wrote:1st ballot HoFer for sure.


Is he though? I would think he is a HOFer but none of his comps are in the HOF. This might be due to the fact that he spent several years in the pen but still, I'm not sure if he is a 1st ballot.

I don't know. He's a prime example of what a true pure pitcher can do. He had extreme versatility. Look at Myers, it took him a while to adjust to relieving, and even longer to adjust to starting again. While Zmolts smoothly transitioned from one of the best Aces in baseball to the best closer in baseball and back again Not to mention no other pitcher has ever had as many Wins+Saves as Smoltz, and add 3000 K's, and the rarity that he played his whole career for one team (which, while not a stat, is still something special these days), I don't see why he wouldn't be first ballot.

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:27 pm
by bceagles04
I say he deserves 1st ballot for sure

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:45 pm
by tomkatt
bceagles04 wrote:I say he deserves 1st ballot for sure


Damn straight. ;-D

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:19 pm
by cubs2238
I'm sorry and I hope I don't offend but anyone that watched enough real baseball and just stattrackers and crawlers on Baseball Tonight would know that Smoltz will be a hands-down first ballot HOF. No one has ever had this kind of success as both a starter and a closer, add the 3000 Ks and he will be stamping his pass to Cooperstown the first chance he gets.

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:17 pm
by fezzik
I think he'll be ok the rest of the way...that's what my "gut" tells me. I just hope I fed my gut something different than what Dusty's been eating...

I'm curious to see his next outing or two though.

Re: Smoltz new arm slot

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:22 am
by yanks924
Only pitcher with 150+ saves and 200+ wins in the HISTORY of BASEBALL, 1st ballot no doubt.