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Re: Delmon Young

PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:32 am
by Inukchuk
Tampa is looking smarter and smarter these days. It's nice to see ;-D

Re: Delmon Young

PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:02 am
by Ursa
Inukchuk wrote:Tampa is looking smarter and smarter these days. It's nice to see ;-D

So far Garza and Bartlett for Young and Harris is working out nicely for the Rays.

Re: Delmon Young

PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:41 pm
by MashinSpuds
freeling_prideful wrote:Hhmm I personally had him fairly low among OF's, behind Damon, Francoeur, Swisher, Hawpe, Kemp, Bay, Dye...even Andruw Jones! People talk about potential but he didn't even really show much of that last year in TB. He hit like 13 HR and stole a few bags? Whatever.


I like how Young has supposedly minimal potential when he hit 13 HR, 93 RBI and nearly a .290 average... at 21 years old! He's 22 now guys. Yeah, he was probably overrated some but when he was pegged as the #1 prospect in baseball despite an awful K/BB ratio it's hard not to see where the hype came from. 'Not much potential' at 21 with a .290 average and a 20/20 outlook ... you've got to be kidding. It might not be this year, but don't be foolish enough to sleep on the guy next year.

Re: Delmon Young

PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:32 pm
by horste
MashinSpuds wrote:
freeling_prideful wrote:Hhmm I personally had him fairly low among OF's, behind Damon, Francoeur, Swisher, Hawpe, Kemp, Bay, Dye...even Andruw Jones! People talk about potential but he didn't even really show much of that last year in TB. He hit like 13 HR and stole a few bags? Whatever.


I like how Young has supposedly minimal potential when he hit 13 HR, 93 RBI and nearly a .290 average... at 21 years old! He's 22 now guys. Yeah, he was probably overrated some but when he was pegged as the #1 prospect in baseball despite an awful K/BB ratio it's hard not to see where the hype came from. 'Not much potential' at 21 with a .290 average and a 20/20 outlook ... you've got to be kidding. It might not be this year, but don't be foolish enough to sleep on the guy next year.


Here is what I just wrote about him on another thread:

"He is in midst of a nasty slump that has carried over to the field. However, (I have him on my team, and I am an avid Twins fan) it is hard to see him struggling so much. There are some thing that are nice to see. Those being his Triples and Doubles and his increase in Walks. Last year in 645 PA he walked 26 times for a 4% walk rate. This year in 198 PA he has walked 17 times for a 8.5% walk rate. That is double what he had last year.

I know he hasn't homered in over (IIRC) 60 games dating back to last year. However as several people pointed out already he is only 22, and few 22 year olds mash 20 hrs a year. It is more important to develop his swing and mentality at the plate. And to the person that said they thank the Twins for the trade. Remember they don't just give pitching away. Usually they are the ones that end up with the better end of the deal. Look at the Milton deal, the AJ deal, and the Knoblock deal. They end up with the better prospects in the end.

Delmon Young is still young and has many years to develop his power, and it will come. I will predict about 10- 14 this year. Much in line with what he had last year."

Not all was needed to be stated again but it will be. And MashinSpuds has my summary.

Re: Delmon Young

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:41 pm
by swyck
few 22 year olds mash 20 hrs a year


What's this supposed to mean? No one's complaining that he's not at a 20 hrs pace. Most MLB 22 year olds mash more then ZERO hrs a year.

Re: Delmon Young

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:08 pm
by horste
swyck wrote:
few 22 year olds mash 20 hrs a year


What's this supposed to mean? No one's complaining that he's not at a 20 hrs pace. Most MLB 22 year olds mash more then ZERO hrs a year.


I was talking about how the expectations (including mine though a bit more reserved) for a 20/20 season. I would be happy with a 12-15/20 season (like I expected out of the gate). That is what I meant.

Re: Delmon Young

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:45 pm
by Yoda
swyck wrote:
few 22 year olds mash 20 hrs a year


What's this supposed to mean? No one's complaining that he's not at a 20 hrs pace. Most MLB 22 year olds mash more then ZERO hrs a year.


Most 22 yo are at AA.