lesgrant wrote: Enough probable cause has been shown by prosecutors to subpoena Bonds as a witness to illegal steroid distribution. He’s not an executive of the company, so he probably isn’t linked in any administrative capacity. He’s not a scientist, so he’s not a witness to the development. He can only be a witness to the distribution and/or consumption.
Of Supplements ..... right? cus that was what he was getting there, just like alot of other Athletes ..
Giants catcher A.J. Pierzynski also received supplements from Anderson and was called to the Balco hearings. "I had proof of everything they had ever sent me, and it was multi-vitamins," he said. "I went in, showed them what he had sent me... and I walked out without having to see the grand jury."
lesgrant wrote: No matter what happens, Bonds and other athletes will be called to testify. When he takes the fifth, I wonder what statistical analysis you will use to explain that. You are all kidding yourselves if you think Barry Bonds is totally clean and clear from this scandal.
Why would he plead the fifth? He has already said that he didn't take them. Greg Andersons lawyers said .. "Barry was offered them and he refused" Why would he plead the fifth.
Your hatred for the man is starting to show....
lesgrant wrote: Those that require a positive test result from Barry from this record breaking season are people that won’t believe anything. Anyone who requires impossibilities as evidence are people that don’t want to be convinced of it at all. There are many Pete Rose supporters out there that still believe he never bet on baseball, despite a paper trail to the contrary. There are many OJ supporters that cling to the hope he didn’t do it. There will always be Bonds supporters who won’t believe it even if he admits it (see Pete Rose coverage).
Your week agrument fails on one simple point.
Pete Rose is an admitted Liar, Cheat and Convicted Felon.
Barry Bonds has never done a thing. I am pretty sure he has never even been suspended from baseball. As a matter of fact Barrys only real crime, is not coddling up to the same "press" that hounded his father during his career. And you guys want him to pee in a cup and give to these idiots? get real
As for Pete. The city of Cooperstown should get a restraining order on him! Hey what ever it takes to keep the felon out.
Why would a big time superstar use steroids?
That one is so easy, I can’t believe you’re asking it. In Barry’s case: earning potential in twilight of his career. Do you think Barry Bonds’ earning potential as an athlete/spokesperson increased or decreased with a home run record under his belt? Do you think his value in retirement in terms of signing autographs, being a spokesperson, or being a broadcaster, increased or decreased with that home run record? How much would it increase or decrease if he broke Hank Aarons’ record? It’s the oldest motivation there is – perpetuating money and fame. The sad and sick thing about it is that there are some athletes in a variety of sports who will risk their lives for one more flash of the camera or million dollar check.
can you imagine Barry Bonds sitting around signing autographs later on in life? I can't!! This is the same player that never once tested the free agent market to see what he is was really worth, and you have him risking liver failure, small gonads, and the scrutiny and banishment of the world so his "Autograph" will be worth $15.00 vs. $10.00 when he retires....
get a clue....
lesgrant wrote: For those who don’t care if Barry or other major athletes are on steroids: Would you care if your son decided to try them after he saw how well they worked for Barry or your daughter decided to use them because Marion Jones broke WR and won gold medals using them? How much will you care about Barry many years after his retirement when his life is shortened because of using this crap?
actually I am very concerned. And the more I read and study, I am pretty convinced that Giambi was juiced ...
Spike wrote:(There ARE steroids that can help the "fast-twitch" fibers.)
WTF are "twitch fibers"?
I have studied this a ton and never once heard of "twicth fibers". Much less the fast ones?
lesgrant wrote: Bonds as quoted by Redbird Nation, responding to Turk Wendell’s charge that he’s as doped up as an East German weightlifter:
"Just to disrespect other people like that, or talk to the media, I think that's chickensh*t. If you've got something to say, you come to my face and say it, and we'll deal with each other, but don't be a p*ssy and go talk to the media like you're some tough guy."
Sounds like ‘roid rage to me. I wonder if he and Mike Tyson have the same anger management counselor.
Redbird Nation? ... hmm wonder where there bias lies.
If ya wanted the quote, all ya needed to do was check the AP, at least ideally they should be less biast right?
This is not roid rage. Roid Rage is "out of control" "danger to oneselves and others" "usually associated with extreme violence".
Grouperman941 wrote:Pretty tame words compared to what I might have come up with if I was in Bonds' position, and I've never taken steroids.
Just helping to free Barry Bonds from the chains of ignorance.