Nate McClutch wrote:Update!
Johan trade background:
Johan/Atkins/Delmon Young for Sherzer/Lincecum/Mark Reynolds was vetoed by 1/3 league vote
Johan/Victorino for Penny/Chris Young was vetoed by 1/3 league vote
Johan/Victorino for Penny/C. Young/Jermaine Dye was passed
I think people overvalued Victorino in the second trade. His 30+ steal potential is fine, but he should not have be a deal breaker IMO.
Thanks for those of you with positive input.
I just hope that the veto-happy owners in the league -- again, 1/3 league vote in a 12 team (no keeper league, mostly friends) or what amounts to 4 out of 10 owners not involved in the transaction. Its hard to argue against 4/10 voting against a trade, but I also know how hard it is to make a trade and its disheartening when it is shot down.
FYI earlier in the year, this passed through:
Crazy right? But look at Hanley's numbers, and Daisuke's drag on WHIP and unknown second half potential (and this is long before Tulo DL), and I think you have to have an open mind about player value. I got the 3 players, and sometimes I think I should've kept Hanley. Tulo notwithstanding. I'm running Felix Lopez out there, and eyeballing the Roger Cedeno & the Erick Aybars of the league, and watching Dice K walk 8 batters. Lopsided trades not always how they seem.
You should have kept Hanley. None of those three come close to approaching his value, even when healthy. It's a fair deal, but never do 3 for 1s with a top 5 guy. Quality for quantity is a losing proposition.
Why does it only take 4 votes to veto in a 12 team league? It should at least be a majority. No wonder you never get any trades done.
It seems you guys aren't taking into account the players that are dropped. In a 3 for 1 deal, you need to cut two players. Who'd you cut when you picked up Tulo/Dice/Hamels?