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Doughhead wrote:I really have a hard time believing that these sort of shenanigans exist in experts leagues My guess is they have a gentlemen's agreement to play positions the way they are intended.
Doughhead wrote:Well, the third dissenter from last year posted this on our pool's page this morning. Just thought I'd post it here to show you what I'm talking about...I really am at a loss...so this year's loophole has been shifted to RP's as it appears to me and some other fantasy managers.
The Taint Bros. (he's referring to me and last year's league champ) will now hoard as many closers as possible and play them every night their starters are not starting...this carousel of RP's will allow them to get lots of quality innings, a skewed number of saves and almost no downside to the numbers accumulated by the starters.
You know it pains me to think that 6 managers simply put their effort into drafting and picking up the best talent per position and use their bench and DL spots to replace injured or innefective players not use as a carousel of players to gain an unlikely and ridiculous advantage. It is not illegal and maybe not even cheating but it really isn't sportsmanlike or gentlemanly in a league consisting of friends...for god's sake its been like 2 weeks and [Doughhead] has a nice lead in saves although they are all mediocre relievers (Valverde, Corpas, Soria, Capps) and we all see where the trend will lead over a whole season.
I really have a hard time believing that these sort of shenanigans exist in experts leagues My guess is they have a gentlemen's agreement to play positions the way they are intended.
I think after this year there is only one proposition left that will keep the Taint Bros. from finding a loophole in the system and abusing it...its to abolish all bench spots (keep DL spots for injured stars and increase them if necessary). This makes all managers play their players how we all intended when these pools started. Although most of us already understand that!
I also gaurantee that the Taint Bros. did not each stumble into this "strategy" coincidentally at the same time...one of them noticed this loophole, told the other and both loaded up on all available closers.
talan37 wrote:I "sort of" agree with them, but think they took the completely wrong approach to handling it. If they wanted a league in which in their opinion had no "loopholes" then they should have set it up like that. Complaining after the first year is just stupid because they had the opportunity to fix it and didn't.
I am personally fine with the second approach mentioned with the SP/RP/P spots to give everyone flexibility of having extra closers or extra starters and complaining about that is really stupid. I am however not a fan of the players with mixed SP/RP eligibility. If it was within the rules though I would certainly not act the way they have done, I would let it go for the season and if the majority of people wanted it changed, it would be changed, otherwise I would deal with it.
My league uses max 8 starts per week(matchup), with 4 RP/4 SP slots open per day. You can shuffle more than 4 relievers in and out of the relief slots, but you can't put them in SP slots. We have not changed the eligibility of every player who is RP/SP but the rule is you are only allowed to use them in the role they are at the time other than an incidental outting.(technically billingsley's first outting was a relief appearance not a start) This is a "gentlemans" agreement that you don't put relievers in starter spots or vice-versa since the league website doesn't technically prevent it, however it is against the rules and the commish will retro-actively remove them if you get caught.
You are definitely not in the wrong, although if I was playing in a league with friends, after the first year with such a split, I would probably try to make some sort of agreement or come to terms so that everyone was happy. I know what your doing is well within the rules, and a viable strategy, but obviously your leaguemates think you are violating the spirit of the rules, otherwise they wouldn't be so upset about it.
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