BALCO All-Stars wrote:deutschland wrote:i don't understand your reasoning on Ordonez having 1 good year in the last 4. he was injured in 04 and 05. He has consistenly proven himself as a top fantasy OF in every full season he has played since 1999.
I agree with you that he's a solid OF, but not a can't bench type of guy:
2007: 157 games .363, 117 R, 28 HR, 139 RBI STUD, but can't keep that .363 average this year, which in turn should decrease his R and RBI
2006: 155 games .298, 82 R, 24 HR, 104 RBI = solid, but nothing special. 26th best OF in 5x5 yahoo rankings.
2005: 82 games .302, 38 R, 8 HR, 46 RBI = hurt, but numbers were not good while playing, extrapolate for full season = 76 R, 16 HR, 92 RBI = blah
2004: 52 games .292, 32 R, 9 HR, 37 RBI = hurt, extrapolate for full season = 96 R, 27 HR, 111 RBI - solid, but again, nothing uber-special
2003: 160 games .317, 95 R, 29 HR, 99 RBI, 9 SB = solid, but again, nothing special
1999-2002: STUD, 5 tool guy, but he was in his late 20's back then and does not steal anymore.
He's older (turned 34 in January), and IMO, his ceiling is .300 100 R, 25 HR, 110 RBI. He's a solid OF, but not a stud can't bench type of guy. He only has 2 XBH so far in 7 games and only ONE HR in 69 ST AB, so he's just not playing well right now.
Maggs' production makes him a clear #1 OF in standard 12 team mixed leagues. At worst I can see someone ranking him as a top 2nd OF, but anything less I don't see. Granted it will be nearly impossible for him to reach last year's numbers, but even a significant regression isn't going to change his value that much. Show me where you think he is ranked in terms of OFers this year.