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stevekahuda wrote:I wouldn't touch Kazmir with a ten foot poll. He dropped in round 7 in my first draft (pre injury) to 10 in my second (post injury), and I wouldn't have drafted him in the 14th. It sounds too similar to Harden last year. Everyone minimizes it, but he's still not throwing a baseball, which is a bad sign. If Lackey starts throwing again soon, i would consider him less of a risk
Mar 28 Kazmir (elbow) made about 80 throws off flat ground from 120 feet on Friday, and is scheduled to pitch in a bullpen session on Sunday, the Rays web site reports.
Recommendation: Kazmir said he "felt great" after Friday's session. After he's thrown off the mound a few times, Kazmir will make some minor-league rehab appearances (probably two) before returning to action for the Rays sometime in mid-April.
Yoda wrote:stevekahuda wrote:I wouldn't touch Kazmir with a ten foot poll. He dropped in round 7 in my first draft (pre injury) to 10 in my second (post injury), and I wouldn't have drafted him in the 14th. It sounds too similar to Harden last year. Everyone minimizes it, but he's still not throwing a baseball, which is a bad sign. If Lackey starts throwing again soon, i would consider him less of a risk
lies... He's been throwing the last week.
Mar 26 LHP Scott Kazmir was officially placed on the 15-day disabled list Tuesday, but the bigger news was that he is tentatively scheduled to return to the mound next week. Kazmir, who sustained an elbow strain Feb. 26, has not thrown off a mound since Feb. 13. He has been playing catch with no problems, feeling good and getting better, according to manager Joe Maddon. It seems unlikely Kazmir will pitch in the majors before late April. Yahoo! Sports
Mar 26 Updating previous reports, Rays.MLB.com's Bill Chastain reports Tampa Bay Rays SP Scott Kazmir (elbow) threw long toss Tuesday, March 25, and will take the day off Wednesday. Manager Joe Maddon said they will try to move him to 120 feet by the end of the week and on the mound next week. KFFL
stevekahuda wrote:Long toss doesn't really count . Geez, where have I heard that before (Harden, cough, cough). When he's throwing a baseball in the 70s - 80s again without pain, then I would trust him enough to draft him. MLB teams lie all the time about injuries. I hope he's not hurt, but I wouldn't take him over a pitcher i would think would be useful fantasy wise. Pitchers are enough of a crapshoot without drafting guys that already have injuries.
stevekahuda wrote:If Lackey starts throwing again soon, i would consider him less of a risk
Brad (Toledo) : Stephania, Is it time to start being seriously concerned about Kazmir or are they just being overly cautious? It always makes me nervous when pitchers keep getting pushed back. Thanks!
SportsNation Stephania Bell: Hi Brad: Great question - everyone wondering the same thing. From the rehab side, I totally understand this b/c it is very typical of how these gradual returns to throwing go. But I can see why it is frustrating from a fan standpoint. I don't think the team is being overly cautious, but yes, they're being cautious. Just think - if they wait an extra week or two now, it could mean the difference between a healthy remainder of a season and a return to the DL in a month with ongoing problems. Arm issues with throwers can be that subtle and that fickle. They use not only pain, but evidence of how hard they're able to throw, command, etc to determine what the overall arm strength is and how they're looking as far as progress. If they see something suggesting even minor weakness, they will adjust the timeline, even if the athlete tells them he feels fine. It is extremely fluid, really one day to the next. I have to say, I think they're being smart. Kazmir appears to be progressing on par, but the team was concerned with strength, and wanted more time to build that up before putting him in the rotation. I'm not nervous about what I'm seeing with him.
I think Lackey is a much bigger risk, with both elbow and triceps problems, not to mention a mid-May return estimate.
mielke wrote:Has there been any talk at all of Lackey's elbow since early in camp .. it seemed like it barked ... then calmed down and everything was supposedly OK ... then the triceps.
is there any reason for concern with the elbow other than just speculation and people putting 2 and 3 together ... ?
Obviously if it's just the triceps at this point, that is not so big of an issue.
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