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Teixeira or Ensberg at 3B?

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Postby AlamoCub » Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:47 pm


Ensberg is only good when he's playing at Minute Maid. His home stats:

HR: 16
AB: 188
AVG: .351
OBP: .448
SLG: .665

Road Stats:

HR: 9
AB: 197
AVG: .233
OBP: .304
SLG: .401

So if you can afford to only play him when he's playing at home, then he's great, but he's horrible on the road.
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Postby RyneSandberg » Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:56 pm

Is is just me or is this a No Brainer, Tiexeira!!
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Postby HOOTIE » Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:53 am

Anonymous wrote:
BigLebowski wrote:Tex by more than you think. Ensberg is due to drop his average since he'll be facing pitchers from both sides this year. Ensberg had 1-2 great months last season and the rest were just average. Tex is the better prospect if you can call him that.

you may be right, but it won't be for the reasons you mentioned. He hits both righties and lefties well. His platoon situation wasn't one of putting him in only against lefties and Blum righties.

I think most people tend to forget the kind of prospect that Ensberg was. He is 3rd all time in HRs at USC, his power is no fluke. He is not much different than Blalock. He was ahuge dissapointment his first year and hit very well last year.

Like I said, you may be right, and I do agree Tex has more upside, but I can't figure out why so many people have so much faith in blalock and so little faith in Ensberg?

Enbergs not much different then Tex? Which player spent a large part of his career buried in the minors? Which player at age 27, still hasn't been a everyday player? Ensberg of course. Yes, he has power. But he doesn't have Tex talent. Ensberg 2nd half stats would scare even a non stat guy.
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Postby fezzik » Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:04 am

that's what I thought, but then I looked at the rankings on this site for 3rd basemen Ensberg was listed 8th, Miguel Cabrera 11th, and Tex I just felt like asking to put my mind at ease. I didn't get to see much of Tex last year.
Although some participants didn't rank Tex and Cabrera as 3rd basemen (which is understandable since they generally play at 1st and in the OF), which effected their average rank.

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Postby mrmarley » Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:53 am

Keep in mind, when looking at the rankings, if one person doesn't rank that person for the position, they are given an automatic "zero"...Teix has 3 of those since he's 1B, I guess it was decided by some ppl not to rank him for 3rd.

If you look at the rankings he did rec'v, they put him up near (or above) Glaus, but the zeros were counted and brought his "avg" down a lot:

Mark Teixeira 10.86 22 19 19 16

Just something to remember when looking at the rankings for all players on the cheat sheet.

Good luck ;-D

<edit> Doh, it might help if I read your whole post, and then I would see you already noticed the non-rankings affecting the avgs...well then, carry on! !+)
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Postby mcqfesijiba » Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:11 pm

Teixeira and don't even second guess it.
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Postby MCabHasCrabs » Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:46 pm

Not to derail the thread, but it sounds like the consensus is that Teix will be better than Morgan. What about M Cabrera vs Teix?

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Postby mbuser » Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:08 pm

cabrera should have a nice season with a slightly better average, teixeira should be significantly better in HR, RBI, and R.
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