bigken117 wrote:Um yeah you said steroids weren't illegal when those guys took them.
They weren't according to MLB rules. You are just trying to twist my words.
mweir145 wrote: Madison wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:Nobody is talking about federal law. We are talking about the laws of baseball.
It's the same old argument. The laws of baseball don't override federal law. If federal law says something is illegal, then it is illegal regardless of what MLB says or doesn't say.
Again...it still wouldn't be cheating in that specific sport, it would be breaking a federal law, leaving a person open for punishment by the government, but not the league.
I would guess the MLB must have some sort of general conduct policy, the same as any organization from the massive Exxon to the little corner mart, that says something along the lines of employees must act in accordance with the law. Just because it's not specifically spelled out doesn't make it legal.
There's probably nothing in the MLB rules about murder...so it's OK for one ballplayer to murder another on the field? Maybe an extreme example, but if it's not in the rules then it must be OK?
And I do think that video taping did help the Pats, but only to prepare for the next time they faced. I don't believe that they were feeding the signals to Brady live and he was breaking down the defense based on the cordinaters hand signals on the fly. Also, they Pats are privy to all the tape they want from NFL Films to study an opponent. Based on the clip that was leaked, it was nothing more than matching hand signals with the formation at the time of game.
Yoda wrote:Not sure what point you are trying to make here but anyway. A player here and there cheating is not as bad as an entire organization cheating for 8 years. Think of it this way. A few students cheating on a few exams versus an entire school including the principal, teachers and students allowing cheating to go on for 8 years. What do you think is worse?
You make it sound like everyone from Bob Kraft down to the dude who sells beer for $8.50 was in on it. If it's such a bad thing, it was pretty clandestine throughout the organization. I doubt the punter or the backup long snapper or the dime back were in on it. And if it's so bad, why have ex-opponents like Dan Rooney and Dick Vermeil said it's not that big of a deal?