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The Cow wrote:Matthias wrote:The Cow wrote:In other words if you want C.C. then give us something in return because we will take picks instead of garbage prospects.
No offense, but that's the same thing they were saying over on the Minneapolis Star-Tribune in December.
And what are they saying in Baltimore? Baltimore is getting Adam Jones one of the game's best prospects. The Twins had better offers on the table at the Winter meetings, Minnesota dropped the ball. My guess Minnesota makes a better deal if Terry Ryan were still GM.
eftda wrote:Matthias wrote:Bedard is controlled for 2 years. If Sabathia is dealt, it would probably be at the deadline, so you're getting half a season.
But we'll see. I don't know if Cleveland will hold on to CC for the whole season, but if he's traded, it will be for something closer to what the Twins got than the Mariners.
Very true. I dount any team would be willing to trade their top prospect(s) for a 2 month rental.
Matthias wrote:Maybe Shapiro has made better deals in the past, but then in all fairness, so have the Twins. Partially you can say that Bill Smith just got out-maneuvered, and there's probably some truth to that, but I think the Santana trade illustrates more of a paradigm shift than it does one GM's ineptness. The big players that you would expect in a quality vet trade: Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Red Sox... all of them laid down the understanding that they were putting a high premium on their own young talent. Somewhat that could just be due to the change in helm at the Yankees: without crazy King George jumping at anyone he saw nightly on Sportscenter, the primary driver of these trades is gone. But such an analysis would be overly simplistic. Rather, I'd say that even the Yankees aren't happy paying tons of cash in luxury tax and the Red Sox have been very open about their desire to stay under it. With premium free agents spiraling up to the $20MM/yr range, having young, quality, cost-controlled players is at a premium, even for the teams with the highest payrolls. So the last place you'll see the ace players for blue-chip talent will be in a situation like the Mets who are living on the border of the playoffs where acquiring one player who is 5 wins over their replacement is worth a substantial player swap.
Which is a long way of saying, maybe Shapiro will pull off an eye-popping deal at the deadline (the teams living on the border of the playoffs will certainly be better defined by then) but I wouldn't just assume it's going to be the case because it was the case 5 years ago.
KCollins1304 wrote:If Sabathia makes it to FA, I would expect the Yankees to pony up the cash for him. While the Yankees have a lot of SP depth in the system, there aren't any lefties that are expected to make it to the Yankee rotation.
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