Rounders wrote: Old_Style wrote:
os_gamejunkie wrote:This is a great thread..good work.
Just one note on the Cubs closer though. With the Cubs renting Lieber for a year, I would think Dempster will be closing again this year backed up by Howry then either Wood/Marmol. Marmol does have filthy stuff, but I'm not if he's closer material yet or if Lou does either.
I keep hearing that the Brian Roberts deal is going to be finalized sometime next week.
If this is true, Marshall would be on his way out. So, that would leave Zambrano, Lilly, Hill, and Lieber locked into the rotation. Dempster and Marquis will duke it out for the fifth spot, so I think closer role is still very much up in the air.
Ideally, I think the Cubs should keep Dempster as their closer, with Howry setting up and Marmol/Wood in the 6/7 inning role.
Agreed that it's still very much up in the air. I don't think you can pencil in Dempster. The problem is that Dempster never wanted to be a closer, he likes starting, so they will move him to the rotation if they have the room (if the Roberts trade gets done - though I'd rather see them go after Bedard). I don't know who will end up closing, but I don't think it'll be Dumpster.
I don't think Depster would be ideal as closer. Winning or losing games in April are just as important as winning losing in any other month, but October.
The Roberts deal seems to be dead.
So the rotation after Zambrano, Hill and Lilly are up for grabs. I think Lieber will be 4, cause he is a workhorse, and he was signed for a reason. Eventually I think he'll miss some time but Marshall can replace him for the time being.
That leaves Marquis, Marshall, Dempster fighting for the last spot. Im pretty sure that Marquis will be 5 at the start of the season.
He always starts out well. Then he'll move to the pen in the second half, and Marshall can take his spot.
So theres no need for Dempster. He hasnt had a good season as a starter since 2000 when he was in Florida.
That would put the 'Dumpster project' back to the pen. I dont think that either Piniella or Dempster wants to go back there again.
And lets face it. Marmol or Wood would be much better option at closer.
But this creates the problem that Dempster doin mopup while earning $5.5 million.
So ideally a Dempster trade would do only good for everybody.
Personally I would go with Wood at closer, cause Marmol is the guy who could come in with bases loaded and strike out the side any time.
And Wood has incentives to earn: he can make an additional $3.45 million in performance bonuses based largely on games finished from 20 to 55.
Its a win win situation for everybody.