BronXBombers51 wrote:apz wrote:I have more respect for Rose than for the Roiders. Sure Pete broke baseball rules, but he didn't cheat like those guys did. I'd much rather see Pete in the HoF than Bonds or Clemens. No way Bonds breaks the HR record without PEDs and that makes all the difference for me. Some have said there were no rules against roids or HGH, but every guy that took them broke the law in doing so. Don't most if not all players have clauses in their contracts pertaining to illegal activity?
...then by that logic, getting a speeding ticket is a punishable offense as well, since that's breaking the law. If you're going to say baseball players can be punished for breaking the law, then that pertains to all laws. You can't pick and choose. Well, actually you can, but you need to SPECIFY that in your rulebook, which MLB failed to do until 2003.
By that logic, MLB could not and can not punish players who rape, murder, rob banks, etc. Of course they can, because you don't need to specify it in the rulebook. The commissioner of baseball has every right to use his discretion to pick and choose which broken laws are bad for baseball and take appropriate action - this is true in every sport. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I thought the commissioner had an explicitly stated "for the good of the game" morality type of power to punish players for illegal activity. And on top of that, the rules did allow MLB (even before 2003) to force a player to be tested for steroids if there was evidence that he was using - this certainly implies that baseball did not condone the use of steroids long before 2003.
All that said - I think more and more I'm leaning towards letting everyone who is worthy based only on their stats into the Hall of Fame and then letting history determine the merits of each player's worthiness. If the game itself didn't have the ability or the stones to punish the players appropriately at the time of the player's indiscretions to prevent them from gaining the stats necessary to get into the hall in the first place, then too bad.