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accohen wrote:I think that is the point. Yes, Patton and Albers have potential.....but they don't, by ANY means, project to be difference makers or more than number 3-4 starters (especially now in the AL east). The Astros already have 4 number 4 starters behind Oswalt. Why not go for it?? If Pence, Berkman, Lee, Tejada bat 2-5 (hopefully!), NOBODY in the NL will have a better heart of the lineup. If we were looking at this year only, for the Astros it comes down to this: Before the trade, you had Patton as your 5th starter and Everett as your starting SS. After the trade, you have Chris Sampson as your 5th starter and Tejada as your starting shortstop. There are NO other starting pitching upgrades out there this year over what they already have (i.e. they are not going to get Santana or Burnett) either via trade or free agency. So why not go for broke with their offense this year, and hope to sign one of the many starting pitching studs that will be available next year in the offseason?? Just my opinion....
Snakes Gould wrote:The Cow wrote:Adam Everett a gold glove caliber SS is just left out in the wind here? I know the Astros need offense, I guess they could still deal Everett for something.
Somebody mentioned that the Astros need SP, the Tribe has at least 3 guys available that could be had relatively cheap: Cliff Lee who won 18 games a couple years ago, Jeremy Sowers who struggled last year, but is still a nice potential #3 SP, and Aaron Laffey who pitched well for the Tribe last year. Those 3 and perhaps Adam Miller, who is also available, are going to fight it out for the #5 job. So 3 of these 4 guys, all of which should be on some Major League club will be in the minors.
As for Tejada, he is declining and I think it is because he quit taking roids, but he is still productive for a SS. Worth a shot it does not look like the Astros gave up much to give him.
P.S. Are you sure that they are non-tendering Everett? I would think that they could trade him for something.
we get it. you like the indians, but not everything is about them...
my guess is tejada plays alittle SS and alittle 3b.
Scooter1027 wrote:Interesting way to look at it, and it makes some sense to me. The question is, then, do you see Tejada as the proverbial last piece of the puzzle? I mean, can Houston, even in the somewhat weak NL Central, really make a run? I don't see it, I don't think that pitching staff can get it done in a division with some dangerous lineups (Chicago, Milwaukee, Cincinnati in particular). And if they can't make a serious run, is it worth 26 million over 2 years and a couple young pitchers who could be part of something down the road?
Or, could these prospects have been used for pitching? Maybe this is 26 million dollars and 2 of the organization's better prospects worth of misallocated resources. Tejada's nice but it's the pitching staff that needs work. This leaves them with less financial flexibility and fewer trade pieces to beef up the pitching.
AussieDodger wrote:The Astros gutted their farm system for this.
I think they paid way too much.
It was correct to upgrade to Tejada from the ridiculously pathetic Everett (last 3 seasons OPS .654 , .642 , .599) but still too much.
I really like Costanzo. I think he is the goods. If he puts up a .900 OPS at AAA next year Houston should feel very very ill.
I'm not really that amazed by Sarfate or Matt Albers who is a reliever in waiting , but Troy Patton is definately something. He could be a low-whip innings eater to be proud of . His strike out rate only went into the toilet in 2007 , it's possible he could correct what's wrong and get it back to a reasonable level.
Luke Scott should replicate last year a couple of times and be good value. The only reason he is not as good as Tejada is Scott doesn't play SS.
Big big win for Baltimore. (Whens the last time you heard that?)
Astros Acquire Miguel Tejada
UPDATE, 12-12-07 at 4:41pm: Richard Justice notes that Tejada can demand a trade after the '08 season. That hadn't occurred to me; it diminishes his value to the Astros.
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