pokerplaya wrote:George_Foreman wrote:Well, I disagree insofar as I can say Player A has hit .330 this year while Player B has hit .300. Therefore, player A has been the better hitter. I mean, it's really hard to interpret those numbers in a way that makes Player B the better hitter, no? "Excitement" is an emotion, caused by things unique to each individual. "Base hit" is a thing which is observed and codified by MLB. I don't see how one can conflate them and say they're both subjective.
As for bitter, well, maybe in the Reyes+Wright4MVP thread. But not really in this one.
While I do agree that Hanley has been a better hitter this year, there is a whole slew of stats that are also taken into consideration when discussing a players worth. Hanley will be ahead in some, Reyes in others. It's when you have to take all of these stats and formulate who you think is a "better player" for fantasy or real life both, that it becomes subjective.
Also, how can someone truly rate the defensive aptitude of a player? Sure, there are stats that attempt to do so, but they are simply a mathematical attempt to quantify the defensive skills of a player. And while they have their use, they are very flawed, and the only way to really understand a players defensive talent is to watch with your own eyes. And that is the very definition of subjective.
Helping your baseball team is something that can be quantified to one degree or another. You can argue which method is more accurate and stuff like that, but it's based on analysis and facts. "Exciting" is something you feel. You cannot quantify it. At least, not unless you want to set up some survey and see how people report their "excitement" level (measured from 1-10 maybe? hope there's no self-reporting bias based on wanting players from their teams to be higher on the excite-o-meter! better get approval from the human subjects review board before undertaking this little experiment!) at various points in a ball game. Sound absurd? Well, it is. This whole discussion of who is more exciting is absurd. At least trying to have a debate about it is. It's like trying to analyze which Swim Suit issue model is the hottest; it's a matter of personal preference and nothing more.
Like I said earlier, this kind of thing belongs in cheering/venting, not here.