dbstrat wrote:Honestly, I don't think there is much to that aspect of the discussion.
I didn't think you would
dbstrat wrote:Arlington is not really considered a hitter's park anymore.
Uh yes it is
dbstrat wrote:It's pretty neutral.
Uh no it isn't, esspecially in the summer months. Bandbox.
dbstrat wrote:The AL West is not really an insanely tough division to be a pitcher in, IMO. The Angels and A's are well-rounded teams, not offensive juggernauts.
But the NL (pitcher hitting 4 times a game) West.....? Come on.
That willl pad some numbers man.
dbstrat wrote:Sure, SD is a pitcher's paradise so there would be some effect as with the DH, but I don't think that effect is enough to put them on the same level.
Perhaps not, but it does contridict your point about Youngs career 3.93 is not Peavy's career 3.51
I think it is.
dbstrat wrote:My whole problem with this line of thinking is not that I think Young is a bad pitcher or Peavy is untouchable, it's that Young has just started, as you say, to come into his own and you don't throw a guy who just came into his own right to the top...lest you risk getting egg on your face a la the Beltre
Um, last year of no steroid testing, contract year........ 2 + 2 = 7?
This is a different situation...you know that.
dbstrat wrote:Loaiza
He was pretty dominant huh, until he moved from the NL to ........wait for it.....the AL West.
(I liked that one

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dbstrat wrote:Shelton
Stop
dbstrat wrote:Are you old enough to remember Millwood in 1999?
Buddy I'm like 30......and my screen name is Chipper. ( ie Braves)
Yes I remember Millwood.
Also, by the way you throw around cheesey name calling, I think it's your age/maturity that is in question.....but hey thanks for another little jab while trying to make your fruitless points.
dbstrat wrote:He needs to pay his dues before I think it makes any sense to hand him the key to the city.

Pay his dues? Buddy, Peavy only has a couple more years experience. And the "good year" tally looks like its about 3 vs 2, Peavy vs Young.
Peavy's only had two above .500 sub 4.00 era years before this year.
So that reasoning really doesn't play.
Hey have fun not addressing any of that stuff later....