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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:30 am
by Mookie4ever
It seems pretty close but it all depends on scoring.

Is it H2H roto or points based, and if so it depends on how many points are given for saves and steals.


Isn't there a TRADES FORUM??
This forum is crowded enough as it is.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:07 am
by baseball genius
I don't think the offer is as lopsided as you think, but I would much rather have Sheff and Renteria than Smoltz and Pierre.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:50 am
by ondeckb
Auuuuggghhhh.......I can't believe this crying over trades is starting already. Unless there is obvious collusion, please apply the consenting adults rule and let em be.......

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:17 pm
by Guest
stevelabny wrote:this is why all trade discussions are BOGUS.

there is so much information missing.

WHAT OTHER PLAYERS DO THESE TWO HAVE?
WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC SCORING SYSTEM? (H2H can have lots of ways to decide who wins for the week)

Sometimes its ok to make a trade where you take the lesser end, if it helps you where you need help.

Personally I see a stud closer and the tops steals guy and a pick
for a 4 category stuf and a very solid ss and a worse pick
That looks like a pretty fair offer, depending on NEED.

I cant even tell if the original poster thinks the person GETTING sheff/renteria is getting screwed, or the person GIVING them is.

but trades involve NEED.


not really, overall if its a good trade in one league its goon for most leagues.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:25 pm
by Guest
Anonymous wrote:
stevelabny wrote:this is why all trade discussions are BOGUS.

there is so much information missing.

WHAT OTHER PLAYERS DO THESE TWO HAVE?
WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC SCORING SYSTEM? (H2H can have lots of ways to decide who wins for the week)

Sometimes its ok to make a trade where you take the lesser end, if it helps you where you need help.

Personally I see a stud closer and the tops steals guy and a pick
for a 4 category stuf and a very solid ss and a worse pick
That looks like a pretty fair offer, depending on NEED.

I cant even tell if the original poster thinks the person GETTING sheff/renteria is getting screwed, or the person GIVING them is.

but trades involve NEED.


not really, overall if its a good trade in one league its good for most leagues.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:27 pm
by Guest
stevelabny wrote:this is why all trade discussions are BOGUS.

there is so much information missing.

WHAT OTHER PLAYERS DO THESE TWO HAVE?
WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC SCORING SYSTEM? (H2H can have lots of ways to decide who wins for the week)

Sometimes its ok to make a trade where you take the lesser end, if it helps you where you need help.

Personally I see a stud closer and the tops steals guy and a pick
for a 4 category stuf and a very solid ss and a worse pick
That looks like a pretty fair offer, depending on NEED.

I cant even tell if the original poster thinks the person GETTING sheff/renteria is getting screwed, or the person GIVING them is.

but trades involve NEED.
How many people before the season begins have the NEED to trade a 1st or second rounder and a third rounder for a third rounder and a 6th rounder and a worse pick. If they NEED to do that, they NEED to draft better

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:09 pm
by Cornbread Maxwell
Anonymous wrote:
stevelabny wrote:this is why all trade discussions are BOGUS.

there is so much information missing.

WHAT OTHER PLAYERS DO THESE TWO HAVE?
WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC SCORING SYSTEM? (H2H can have lots of ways to decide who wins for the week)

Sometimes its ok to make a trade where you take the lesser end, if it helps you where you need help.

Personally I see a stud closer and the tops steals guy and a pick
for a 4 category stuf and a very solid ss and a worse pick
That looks like a pretty fair offer, depending on NEED.

I cant even tell if the original poster thinks the person GETTING sheff/renteria is getting screwed, or the person GIVING them is.

but trades involve NEED.


not really, overall if its a good trade in one league its goon for most leagues.


no. player values change drastically determining on league setup. For example, in a lot of points leagues you come across, closers are huge point scorers, so youll see gagne go top 5. On the other hand, no closer is worth a 1-2nd rd pick in roto.

Not to mention the changes customized catagories bring.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:16 pm
by mikcou
Cornbread Maxwell wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
stevelabny wrote:this is why all trade discussions are BOGUS.

there is so much information missing.

WHAT OTHER PLAYERS DO THESE TWO HAVE?
WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC SCORING SYSTEM? (H2H can have lots of ways to decide who wins for the week)

Sometimes its ok to make a trade where you take the lesser end, if it helps you where you need help.

Personally I see a stud closer and the tops steals guy and a pick
for a 4 category stuf and a very solid ss and a worse pick
That looks like a pretty fair offer, depending on NEED.

I cant even tell if the original poster thinks the person GETTING sheff/renteria is getting screwed, or the person GIVING them is.

but trades involve NEED.


not really, overall if its a good trade in one league its goon for most leagues.


no. player values change drastically determining on league setup. For example, in a lot of points leagues you come across, closers are huge point scorers, so youll see gagne go top 5. On the other hand, no closer is worth a 1-2nd rd pick in roto.

Not to mention the changes customized catagories bring.


How true :-)

Re: THIS UNFAIR TRADE

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:26 pm
by Purple Haze
headache wrote:H2H

Smoltz,Pierre,12th round pick

for

Sheffield, Renteria,15th. <---gets screwed right?


I think it could be close depending on your other players, and needs... But face value... Sheffield, and Renteria are slightly better.. :-D