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samjerky wrote:I don't think anyone has mentioned it here but there was an article I saw once comparing Bonds to Ruth - and they gave the edge to Ruth in two key regards. First, pitchers used to mess with the ball all the time to get better pitches, and got the ball dirty to make it harder to see. Second, the strikezone was a lot bigger back then.
So how this factors in I don't know, but you definitely can't do a straight-up comparison in that regard.
Let me also point out that if you want to talk about hitting, you've got to stick with that. You can't factor in stolen bases, which is really an issue of base running, a notable talent, but then disregard Babe's ability to pitch, also a notable talent. Yeah, stolen bases is an offensive talent, whereas pitching is a 'defensive' one, but that seems a little arbitrary.
TheRawDAWG wrote:Crazy thing that I didn't realize, Ruth only won 1 "MVP" award. When you look at his numbers you see a bunch of 1s beside them for being first in the league in that year. What did the league look for at that time? Hits maybe?
Also, as someone else pointed out Ruth was a pitcher to start his career and had very low numbers for the first 4 years of his career. He starts out as a hitter and Bonds is still chasing down that HR record...done in the "deadball" era while Bonds did his in the "Juiced" ball era.
Let me know when any other player comes close.
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