The Big Train wrote:Absurd, yes, but somehow I get the feeling that she was not really suggesting that the country “change to her exact political beliefs” as you put it,
It's not "how I put it", it's exactly word for word what she said. That's what I was commenting on. If she's talking about popular belief, then she should have said that, but that's not what she said.
As to the rest of your post, no offense meant, but I could care less about debating this policing action any further, so I'm skipping that part. You think we should be out, I think we should go full scale and end this quick. We're both entitled to our opinions on the matter and your post leaves a whole lot of things wide open to debate/discuss, but I just don't care anymore. I only commented in this thread due to the sheer stupidity of what her words were.
My comment wasn't on the policing issue or the war itself as you raised in your original message, but rather whether Sheehan's views is deserving of such scorn in the context of:
1. the perception held by many that freedom of expression and dissent exhibited by people like Sheehan are being gradually eroded, and
2. the United States' past history in Vietnam which raised many of the questions that people like Sheehan are raising today.
Indeed, she has said many stupid things that I would not support, e.g. living better under Chavez. But they seem trivial in the broader context of being arrested over a t-shirt (I wonder how the Founders would have reacted to this?!). I'm only suggesting that this is deserving of far more concern than any idiotic thing Sheehan says. If occasionally idiotic people like Sheehan are to be stifled (as she was in the State of the Union example), then at some point contrary opinions held by yourself or others may become stifled as well. That, IMHO, should be the object of everyone's ridicule reagrdless of their opinion about Sheehan. She engages in some hyperbole and rhetoric that is a bit over the top, but I'm suggesting that we ought to be careful in not engaging in the same when condeming her.
"Trying to hit him was like trying to drink coffee with a fork." - Willie Stargell on Sandy Koufax