Madison wrote:Lofunzo wrote:Madmin wrote:but the simple fact of the matter is I was in the wrong and none of it ever would have happened had I respected that man's property and thought about it correctly in the beginning.
I know that you really didn't have a leg to stand on at the time but it seems to me that you did have respect for his property. You knocked on the door. What more could you have been expected to do?? If anything, knock, no answer, game over. Other than that, what is the issue??
Exactly. We should have either figured out who else had a ball, or the game was over. Instead, we wanted to play, so I climbed his fence, at which point I was at fault completely for not respecting something owned by someone else. I shouldn't have laid one finger on his fence, much less climbed over it. And I served my punishment for failing to think of his property and the proper way to act, over my desire for the game to continue.
I think you were respecting his property though since you had good reason to go over there and were not doing anything malicious. There are bigger concerns with kids than if they go onto someone's yard for 10 seconds to retrieve something. As a parent I would've expected the neighbor to come out and ask you not to jump over his fence again. If you did do it again, it's a different story. And yes, I would've grilled out the neighbor if I knew he grabbed my kid and dragged him into his house.
Besides, would it have been any more respectful if you left the balls sitting on his lawn rather than picking them up? I would be much more annoyed with kids leaving stuff on my property than coming over for a second to get them.
As for the man in the original story, it wasn't as if he was powerless to do anything about the kid. Instead of waiting with a gun, why not just have a hose ready. I'm sure the kid would stop walking across the lawn if he got sprayed in the face a few times.