Charles_Canton wrote:There are 2 sides to every story, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
True enough, but only to a point. The problem is that Sandbox had been 'proven guilty,' as it were, in the eyes of many, many fantasy folks by mid-2002. And having seen some of the problems at Sandbox, I'm afraid I can't blame them. Expecting those folks, most of whom turned to other fantasy services, to wipe the slate clean now that Sandbox Plus has made changes after returning from bankruptcy (with some of the same people at the helm) is a bit unrealistic.
Note that I'm not in any way trying to slag off Sandbox Plus (as The Limey put it
). If anything, I'm always hoping for more and better options for fantasy players. However, this is the reality they have to contend with if they wish to win folks over.
Charles_Canton wrote:I am assuming that the Cafe is ... endorsed by no fantasy sports entity
Correct. This is an independent site.
Anonymous wrote:But that's another reason I love it over there, we are allowed to EDIT our posts...I use that feature a lot!
Sorry, a number of features can unfortunately only be implemented for registered folks. I think we'd have a problem on our hands if all guests could edit all guest posts...
Arrudawakening wrote:Fact is Madison has no life
chefref22 wrote:i don't think ANYONE can argue that he doesn't have a life if he posts almost 70 times a day.
Don't be deceived. I've learned a thing or two about Madison's life, and it's one that most of us would envy. I can see how Mad's post totals could lead to the wrong conclusion, but trust me on this one.
Guestimator wrote:I sure hope the Cafe users and SandboxPlus users can find a way to forgive and be at peace.
I really don't think there's any hostility whatsoever as far as Cafe users are concerned, toward Sandbox Plus users or those of any other site. I don't think anything's ever been said against Sandbox Plus users, just comments about problems with league service (as you'll find with just about all league providers). There's no agenda here; see it instead as a barometer of opinion in the fantasy community, and feel free to disagree with that opinion and provide arguments to the contrary.
On the other hand, posts like "kick their butts" or "kill all of them" might not be the very best way to win over the people you're trying to convince. Just a thought.
One question for the folks with recent Sandbox Plus experience: how are trade vetos handled now? I remember the commissioner review system being a huge problem a while back. Has it been revamped?