trumpeter wrote:Here's my rankings with some other players in there:
Tier 1: Santana (stands alone)
Tier 2: Webb, Peavy, Oswalt
Tier 3: Zambrano, Smoltz, Sheets, Hill
Tier 4: Kazmir, Maine, Sabathia
Tier 5: Cain, Capuano (there is pretty big tier between Main and Bush)
Tier 6: Bush, Snell
Tier 7: Meche, Lilly
These are all in my opinion, but I wanted to group them with other similar pitchers. This should give you a rough guide.
I don't believe that Santana deserves his own tier. He's the best pitcher in the league for sure, but there are other SPs who should be considered "elite" (Oswalt and Peavy at least) and to me, that means Tier 1.
I'm not ready to put John Maine in the same class as Sabathia. If Maine strings together three rough starts, everybody will begin to question him. You can't say that about guys like Sabathia, Smoltz, Kazmir, Bonderman, etc.
If Sabathis is Tier 4, then you must have a lot of tiers. Sabathia (IMO) is a Tier 2 pitcher--not quite elite, but very good (definitely the kind of guy you start regardless of the matchup). I think there should be no more than maybe 6 tiers. Maybe something like this:
Tier 1: The Elite (Santana, Oswalt, Peavy, etc.)
Tier 2: The Not Quite Elite (Sabathia, Smoltz, Haren, etc.)
Tier 3: Solid (Verlander, Bedard, RHill)
Tier 4: Borderline starters (Buehrle, Lilly, Escobar)
Tier 5: Spot starters (Suppan, Meche, Wainwright)
Tier 6: Trash (Silva, Maholm, Ohka)
Of course, it's always up to the individual owner to determine where a given SP fits in.