Pogotheostrich wrote: bigh0rt wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:man, i disagree with you guys. i wanted to see vince fail. hit absolute rock bottom. there is no real reason why he should have landed this new film. even before, his own connections (ari and dana gordon) couldnt land him anything. he's deserved all this and to treat e that way really bothered me. i wanted e to tell him to shove it and become big (in the same mold as ari) and have vince become the new drama (pre-tv days).
I think that will happen eventually, but it will be towards and at the end of the series. Vince winding up right where he started, only this time for good.
I actually think we are going to see Vince become the Hollywood star that Ari wanted him to be, more focused on the money and not the art. He was at his breaking point and will do anything not to get back there again. And I don't get wanting Vince to fail. The show is about a star's life. If I wanted to watch a show about failure there are plenty of other options. I'm kind of surprised that everyone thinks Vince mistreated E too. He didn't end the friendship he just said it would be better if E wasn't his manager. It wasn't like E didn't have his best interests at heart but you have to admit things took a turn for the worse once E became his manager.
I think you're all missing the point. The show isn't about Vince, it is about E. The show was not only written for E's character, but it was written for Kevin Connolly specifically. This was the turning point, IMO. This is where we finally start to see E make his own things happen and rely less on Vince and Ari. The whole season E was slowly starting to make a name for himself without Vince. He has the Bow Wow character who seems to be picking up steam along with those two hicks who wrote the movie. He got their movie picked up.
It isn't about Vince getting this movie for no reason and the world be happy. It was about E going against the grain and doing the opposite of what Ari and Vince told him to do (which are the two people who have previously been his crutch) in order to land Vince the job. It didn't work with Van Zandt, but because he gave him the footage from Smoke Jumpers it got into Scorsese's hands. Remember the show is about E, not Vince.
You have no frame of reference, Donny. You're like a child who walks into the middle of a movie...