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He is now, IMO, a great pitcher.
Gang Green wrote:Look at the stats any way you want. Pettitte is tied with Smoltz for most career postseason victories. With the Yanks down 1-0 in series to the Twins, BoSox and Marlins this year, he won pivotal Game 2 for them in each situation. The Yankees have won 4 World Championships in which he has played a key role in each one. He is one of the most popular Yankees. Not every star can handle NY. Pettitte easily can and does. He keeps himself in great shape. He is now, IMO, a great pitcher. Why? If you've really followed Pettitte, you will know that he used to get himself in trouble by trying to be a power pitcher when he is not a power pitcher. He also used to solely rely on the cutter to get people out. He now mixes up his pitches quite well. Ask the Red Sox, they said throughout the ALCS that the difference with Andy Pettitte this year is that they never knew what pitch was coming from him. He also has matured to the point will he will not try to overpower people. Pettitte has 4 or 5 really strong years left. If he leaves, George will have egg on his face for a long time.
Lofunzo wrote:The only reason that we are discussing how much he is worth is because of the Yankees. He is worth more to them than anyone else. No matter what the stats say, he has proven that he can get the job done in NY and in big spots in NY. Not all pitchers can say that. That is why I want them to sign him and will be sad to see him go.
timkell wrote:He is now, IMO, a great pitcher.
Yes, he is a great pitcher, but he's not one of the top ten pitchers in baseball.
Quick, of the top of my head, in no particular order...
...are all better than Pettite. And you can name more. Only aces are worth 15 million.
He's maybe worth 11 million because he's a lefty. Is that so bad?
Yeah, he was awesome in the playoffs, but he'll still be Andy Pettite next year, which means he's a damn fine starting pitcher, but he's no staff ace.
timkell wrote:Lofunzo wrote:The only reason that we are discussing how much he is worth is because of the Yankees. He is worth more to them than anyone else. No matter what the stats say, he has proven that he can get the job done in NY and in big spots in NY. Not all pitchers can say that. That is why I want them to sign him and will be sad to see him go.
I'll be sad, too, Lofunzo. I love Pettite!! But you have to have a ceiling for what a player is really worth to your team. You don't just pay him whatever it will take. You need to be rational about it what you're going to pay a guy.
In the end, if he wants to go to Houston, and he'll only come back to NY for an extra four million above what Houston's offering, why would that be worth it to the Yankees?
Contrary to popular belief, the Yankees do have SOME limit on their budget. Even they don't like to waste four million.
Hurtya wrote:ABC 13 Eyewitness news reports that it is possible tommorow morning Pettite will be an Astro.
Siege1386 wrote:ESPN reports on Sportscenter that Pettite will give the Yankees one last chance to sign him.
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