ramble2 wrote:After reading Madison's post, though, perhaps the likeliest scenario is Boston agreeing to pay $5 - $10 million of Manny's salary. That's just ridiculous. I'm not saying it won't happen, but that is ridiculous. Why not just sign Vlad?
I'm having trouble following your reasoning...first of all, there has been no mention of any A-Rod deal *not* involving Manny in any major outlet that I have seen, at least not since the very first formative stages a month ago, when no one knew what was going on aside from the fact that A-Rod wanted out.
Second of all, what does Vlad have to do with anything? Vlad is going to ask a minimum of $13 mil/per, and taking him on instead of doing the A-Rod deal would mean that the Sox are still saddled with Manny's poor attitude, and are putting themselves in a position where they are overloaded with overpriced outfielders and cannot resign Nomar, Lowe, Pedro, etc. This makes no sense to me at all, but maybe I'm not understanding what you're trying to say.
Actually, there have been several rumors involving A Rod being moved in 3 or 4 way trade that doesn't involve Manny. Here's another one:
newsday wrote:In these discussions, the Rangers would send Rodriguez to the Red Sox, Boston would ship superstar shortstop Nomar Garciaparra to Anaheim and the Angels would send shortstop David Eckstein and a few pitchers to Texas.
The Rangers would get the raw end of the deal in terms of talent, but they would free themselves of the infamous 10-year, $252-million deal Rodriguez signed three years ago. He has seven years and $189 million left on the contract - he can opt out after 2007 - so the Rangers would have to ship money to the team that takes him.
There are all kinds of rumors flying around about this. Who knows which of them are speculation and which are grounded in actual discussions. I was actually pointing out how ridiculous some (most) of these trade rumors were. As I stated above, the most likely scenario has Manny and money going to Texas for A Rod.
As for my second point, if the Red Sox agree to take on A Rod's contract and pay for $10 million of Manny's contract (while he plays for the Rangers) that is a huge amount of money to pay for a SS. You would essentially be paying $35 million a season for A Rod to be your SS. That's an increase in payroll of $15 million. Plus, A Rod's salary increases over the life of the contract, whereas Manny's salary decreases, meaning the payroll increase grows over the life of the contract.
I suppose I should have been more explicit what I meant when I wrote 'why not just sign Vlad?'. For the payroll increase the Red Sox will see in trading Manny for A Rod while agreeing to pay $10 million of Manny's salary, you could probably sign Vlad (or come close).
Would it make sense for the Red Sox to sign Vlad instead of trading for A Rod? Probably not - although who wouldn't want him in their lineup. Would it make sense for the Red Sox to trade Manny + $10 million a year for A Rod? Not unless you've got money to burn. Which I guess the Red Sox do. $30-35 million for SS? In today's market? Ridiculous. How many MLB payrolls are under that?
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