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Madison wrote:Lofunzo wrote:Mad.......I hope that this isn't angering you as this seems to be a good discussion. It is hard to predict what will be happening in A-Rod's life at that time. As for Pettitte going to Houston, it worries me a lot. The difference here is that he has an established family (with wife and kids) in the Houston area and that means a lot to him. The Yankees can offer more money and the chance to pitch in the postseason yearly. We shall see what happens. It also intrigues me as to what the MLBPA would do if A-Rod turned down $27 million and then signed for much less. I would love to see a player do that but I just find it hard to believe. I also believe that if they lose him, the Sheff deal is for naught and, even if they sign Colon, they will not be the same. I don't even care about the all-righty thing. They need to sign Andy.
P.S. It is snowing here today and the worst of it is expected tomorrow.
Nah, this topic doesn't upset me at all. It's funny at times, and disappointing at times, but not upsetting. I would fully support my Rangers trading Arod as long as there are solid benefits for them to do it. Seems like the team feels the same way.
Manny for Arod straight up? That's funny because it doesn't help the Rangers, like I've already explained.
Arod staying for the money? It's truely dissappointing that a lot of people don't realize that the most important thing in some player's lives is winning a ring. All ballplayers want to win a ring, and there are quite a few of them who are good enough that they can try and make it happen.
Look at Schilling. He wanted an extension so he could be competitive in his final 3 years. Read his letter to the fans of Arizona, and how he talked about winning the World Series. That was huge in his career. He wouldn't trade it for anything. But yet, a lot of people think Arod would stay in Texas just for the money. They just don't understand how important winning a championship is to some ballplayers. He doesn't hide how he feels, we read about it every day. I know he's not the happiest man in baseball right now, I've watched it unfold day by day the last three years, especially since I'm 20 minutes from the ballpark and a Ranger fan.
Superstars walk away from money in all sports. Tiger? Andre Agassi? Michael Jordan? Why not baseball? It happens occasionally already. I used Mark McGuire once before and I'll say it again. Mark had a 2 year, 20 million dollar contract on his dresser in his bedroom. All he had to do was sign it, and show up every day. What did he do? He returned the contract unsigned and retired. Ballplayers don't walk away from money? How many examples does everyone need to see in order to believe that some ballplayers are gifted athletes, but have normal feelings just like us?
LBJackal wrote:Most of the examples you've used are people giving up small amounts of money, or in McGwire's case, a large amount of money if he played. McGwire gave up that money because he wanted to live his life and no longer play baseball, which I think is a good thing. Either way A-Rod will be playing SS when the decision comes. It just depends if it's for $27 M or $17 M. Will he take about a $10 M pay cut just for a better team? No. Like I said he might seem like a nice guy, and seem like he has the best intentions to win a ring, but not if it means he loses $10 M. Is there an example anywhere in sports of a player paying $10 M to go to a team with a better chance to get a championship?
(I actually just thought of a partial example but unless you come up with one I win )
swingaway wrote:Curt Schilling's now in Boston. Will Alex Rodriguez join him?
According to a Thursday report on DallasNews.com, the Texas Rangers would consider trading A-Rod to the Boston Red Sox -- for the right considerations, of course.
Sources told The Dallas Morning News that the Rangers would entertain dealing the $252 million man and 2003 American League MVP to Boston in exchange for outfielder Manny Ramirez.
The catch, according to the report, is that the Red Sox would have to absorb A-Rod's contract, which has seven years and about $180 million left on it; and, the Sox would have to pay part of Ramirez's $20 million-per-season tag. The slugger has four years left on his contract.
"My position on all trades is that I'm not going to comment one way or another," Rangers GM John Hart told the paper.
A major league source told the Morning News that A-Rod would like to join the Red Sox. Another source close to the star shortstop indicated he wants to leave Texas.
The Morning News report said a couple of factors must come into play to complete the trade. Those factors include:
The Rangers saving at least $10 million per year. Half of that savings would come from swapping A-Rod with Ramirez straight up. The rest would need to come from the Red Sox paying part of Ramirez's salary. In essence, the Red Sox would be paying A-Rod an average of $25 million to $30 million for each of the next five years.
For this to happen the Red Sox would have to deal with the Nomar Garciaparra issue, perhaps dealing him to either Anaheim or Los Angeles.
article taken from espn site.
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