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Drafting with newbies

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:14 pm
by mkultra
I'm starting a (slow) draft in a 12-person H2H league, where about 1/2 the folks have never done FBB before. As a result, they're drafting based on Sportsline's rankings, which put pitchers above batters. The good news is that, as a results, I snagged Papi at 7, and his power counts for A LOT in our league (he finished 2nd behind Pujols last year). The bad news is that the ace pitchers are falling early.

So the question is, at what point do I need to grab an ace? Coming back around, I could easily see getting Beltran, Utley, or MCab still being available, but I'd hate to see all the aces gone by round 3 or so.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:19 pm
by teddy ballgame
If it's a lot of newbies you should be able to patch together a nice rotation of mid level guys (Haren, Zito, Schmidt) while having a good group of elite hitters.

That's what I would try and do anyways. Possibly look out for an early closer run though (although I'm not sure where they are in regards to sportsline's rankings).

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:22 pm
by pokerplaya
Forget the top pitchers. Don't reach for them because that is what everyone else is doing, do the opposite. Ignore pitching and nab all of that top hitting talent and be happy about it.

Some guys to target could be: Sheets...could be your ace and might fall a few rounds to make him a viable target. Felix, Cain, Hamels, Harden could all be mid round targets (8-12) that would make a nice core to builid around.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:23 pm
by dewey finn
psych them out by saying you'll be drafting so and so early so that they panic and draft them well ahead than they're worth.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:23 pm
by teddy ballgame
pokerplaya wrote:Forget the top pitchers. Don't reach for them because that is what everyone else is doing, do the opposite. Ignore pitching and nab all of that top hitting talent and be happy about it.

Some guys to target could be: Sheets...could be your ace and might fall a few rounds to make him a viable target. Felix, Cain, Hamels, Harden could all be mid round targets (8-12) that would make a nice core to builid around.

That would also be one of the riskiest groups I've ever seen. :-o

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:44 pm
by hot4tx
teddy ballgame wrote:
pokerplaya wrote:Forget the top pitchers. Don't reach for them because that is what everyone else is doing, do the opposite. Ignore pitching and nab all of that top hitting talent and be happy about it.

Some guys to target could be: Sheets...could be your ace and might fall a few rounds to make him a viable target. Felix, Cain, Hamels, Harden could all be mid round targets (8-12) that would make a nice core to builid around.

That would also be one of the riskiest groups I've ever seen. :-o


Yes, but the upside is huge. The chance that one or two are hurt or underperform is there, but if 2-3 of them pan out you would end up with a very decent front end of a rotation and still have a HUGE edge over your opponents in hitters.

Also remember that in weekly lineup change CBS leagues you can add/drop 2-start pitchers for the back end of the rotation and come be competitive with the pitching of superior rotations.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:46 pm
by bigh0rt
teddy ballgame wrote:
pokerplaya wrote:Forget the top pitchers. Don't reach for them because that is what everyone else is doing, do the opposite. Ignore pitching and nab all of that top hitting talent and be happy about it.

Some guys to target could be: Sheets...could be your ace and might fall a few rounds to make him a viable target. Felix, Cain, Hamels, Harden could all be mid round targets (8-12) that would make a nice core to builid around.

That would also be one of the riskiest groups I've ever seen. :-o


You have to look at the rounds you're getting them in, and judging it against other SPs who would be drafted in that area. Guys like Sheets and Harden would be, IMO, similar risks to get injured as other guys taken in that area are to just not pitch well. Harden and Sheets are both guys I'm targeting this year, as well.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:41 pm
by number9
Relax, it's a league full of noobs, no need to pummell them to death !+)

Anyways, the standard hitting over pitching (because SP are so volatile year to year) drafting should get you a strong team. You can always pick up decent SP and RP midseason anyways (and you'll cafe juiced compared to other guys for waiver wire info.)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:43 pm
by Ender
This is how I feel every draft I'm in, even against experts!


/flex!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:45 pm
by bleach168
What are the veto rules like? You going to let the noobs hang themselves or are you going to protect them?