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slomo007 wrote:But don't you think Lee would have gone for less than the price you paid for K-Rod, if Lee were not a keeper? I think he would have been below $30 for sure, and probably in the $25 range or so. So really you would have been better off just buying Lee outright...though I realize you weren't able to do that because he was kept. I'm trying to relate this to a non-keeper league though.
slomo007 wrote:How much are the cheaper options going for?
Guys like Kerry Wood, Joel Pineiro, Ryan Dempster, etc?
I think I would shoot for one mid-level guy, no matter what the cost...then sit back and let everyone else overspend on the rest. Then hope to either (a) get lucky on the WW or (b) make a trade.
By mid-level guy, I mean Street, Hoffman, Lidge, or either of the Corderos.
Ender wrote:KRod had more effect on ERA and WHIP than all but 6 SP's in all of baseball last year in a 1300 IP league. Generally speaking top end closers are underrated because people don't realize just how much they help ERA/WHIP. Granted they only have that type of value in a league with innings limits.
Amazinz wrote:I'm not that familiar with Sportsline's dollar values. One possible factor are the category splits, not the batter/pitcher split. Sportsline could be devaluing Saves which would explain the discrepancy in closer values. I am not sure why there would be a wide discrepancy in MR. It's possible that Sportsline is evaluating SP/MR as two separate player pools and ESPN evaluates them as one? I don't know, just a guess.
At any rate, I would lean toward the ESPN numbers. I create my own dollar values and the value of top tier closers in my work is closer to ESPN than it is to Sportsline.
Amazinz wrote:Dollar values will never equal the league cap. They're not really supposed to. When you determine the value of a unit of production than you can assign a value to any player. In this scenario the values should not be expected to sum to zero.
Also, I guess I am closer to Sportsline then. Top closer are definitely worth closer to $30 than $20 IMHO.
ActionHero wrote:Ender wrote:KRod had more effect on ERA and WHIP than all but 6 SP's in all of baseball last year in a 1300 IP league. Generally speaking top end closers are underrated because people don't realize just how much they help ERA/WHIP. Granted they only have that type of value in a league with innings limits.
Very interesting. Our league also has an innings limit, so perhaps it's worthwhile to try to grab a top closer. How would I go about calculating how much they're worth in an innings limit league?
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