timkell wrote:You tell me, after 1987, did you think he was a sure fire hall of famer? So did everyone else. The guy had talent, he was humble, had a great work ethic, and acted like your average Joe.
So what if he played for too many years? Most Yankee fans were sad to see him go, even if he wasn't playing well. And he's the ONLY example of a player during my lifetime that caught the hearts of Yankee fans to the point where they still loved him regardless of his performance.
this is my point. he had a great four years. thats it. and youre taking personal offense to me nicknaming "donnie groundout" and bashing him for sticking around too long.
he doesnt get any extra points with me for being humble, a great work ethic and acting like an average joe.
personally, i prefer my players to be cocky, confident and talk trash at any time. much more FUN that way.
sports are about talent and winning.
if youre great and you win, i dont care if youre the worlds biggest dirtbag, i want you on my team.
i never understand why people apply such concepts to SPORTS where winning is the only thing that matters.
as for ny fans continuing to love him during his final pathetic years, i'm pretty sure that jeter will get the same treatment, especially since most fans dont gloss over his weak points due to his winning record, but because they really dont see any.
and the fans already started to turn on bernie this year when he still actually put up decent offensive numbers and just couldnt play center anymore.
i think years of winning have spoiled yankee fans, maybe they will turn on jeter in his decline too. the fans only cheered for mattingly at the end because there was nothing else to cheer for.