Coppermine wrote:statsman88 wrote:Chrisy Moltisanti wrote:Well now all the brainwashed ones can finally believe it too:Guardian wrote:Pentagon unit defied CIA advice to justify Iraq war
'Alternative' agency set up to link Saddam to al-Qaida
· Mainstream intelligence was cast aside, Senate told .
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Saturday February 10, 2007
An "alternative intelligence" unit operating at the Pentagon in the run-up to the war on Iraq was dedicated to establishing a link between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida, even though the CIA was unconvinced of such a connection, the US Senate was told yesterday.
A report presented to the armed services committee by the Pentagon's inspector general, Thomas Gimble, exposes the Bush administration to new charges of manipulating intelligence to make its case for going to war against Saddam nearly four years ago.
Mr Gimble described a unit called the Office for Special Plans, authorised by then Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld and overseen by the former policy chief Douglas Feith, to review raw intelligence on Iraq. The main focus of the unit was establishing a link between Saddam and al-Qaida - going against the consensus in the intelligence community that the Iraqi leader had nothing to do with the September 11 2001 attacks.
Interesting stuff Chrisy, I'm posting over here on the baseball side because I know people over here will actually talk about this
Ive heard stories about this for a bit, but it seems that is it sorta confirmed (or as confirmed as our messed up media will get. Its so hard to decipher stories into fact vs. truth. ) so what is America going to do about it? Probably nothing. I would imagine most Americans are happy that Saddam is no longer in power, (although I would argue it will make Iraq and America's involvement there worse now that he's gone), so I really don't see any action being taken over this story that he went after Saddam even if it was kinda cheap the way he did it.
I can honestly say that I am unhappy Saddam is no longer in power. I can't look at this as simplistically as the world has been ridden of a tyrant. Saddam was a stabilizing force in the chaotic middle east, particularly to the other radical power, Iran's Ahmadinejad. Now, not only is Iraq the 'breeding ground' for ism it previously was not, but Iran's power has increased dramatically on the world stage and has risen as legitimate threat to middle eastern stability.
Yes, i would sorta argue the same thing. Since Saddam was a Sunni, the 2 parties are at total war now since they fear losing power to the other. And really is the only thing Iraq and Iran know and have grown accustomed to, and its only fitting that a violent ruler is in power. Now that he is gone, we are stuck in the violent chaos.
Thats what I think in a nutshell, but if you did a poll, I bet most people would say they are better off now that Saddam is gone, even though Saddam probably wasn't a real threat to the US