Phatferd wrote:I loved both movies (Yuma and No Country), but I don't think you can compare Wade's character to Anton. They were two totally different bad guys. Anton didn't care about anyone and only lived for himself. He decided people's fate by a coin. He would have killed an innocent old man who ran a beat-up shop if the coin decided his fate. He chose to kill the wife of Moss, and countless others.
Wade, was a murderer, but he killed people for a purpose. He respected people, even though he was a murderer. The woman at the bar, he was sweet and gentle to. His talent of drawing, brought a softer side to him for us all to see. The man he killed with a fork, not only taunted him and dug his own grave, he destroyed the ranch that Bale and his boys survived on. Wade knew all of this.
These two characters were totally different, you cannot compare the two at all. Wade killing his gang and showing respect to Bale and his son, were 100% within his character.
I can't dispute the statement that pussing out at the end was within his character. With the exception of Get Shorty I really don't like Elmore Leonard and find all of his characters unbelievable.
There was no reason for him to kill his gang. Crowe was a robber and was out to steal money. These guys helped him. And looked to be very competent and loyal to him. Why kill them? The only possible reason was that he was a psychopath. That fits with throwing a guy off a cliff (another guy that he supposedly respected, for what that is worth) for making a joke about his mom and all of his other actions in the movie. He was a psycho.
Is it consitent for a psychopath who was up to then totally self-centred to kill his entire gang to show respect for a dead man? Not at all. Made no sense. He did all of that so that a kid would respect his dead dad? That's the worst of hollywood cliches.
Mookie4ever wrote:Imagine if at the end of No Country for Old Men, Javier Bardem's character Chigur, instead of killing Moss' wife, he respects her for refusing to call heads or tails and b/c she has earned his respect he gives her the stolen money and lets her live. What kind of a pussy ending would that be? Chigur's character was so great b/c he was a believable bad guy.
Didn't you not like NCFOM? I seem to recall you saying something like that.
I really liked No Country. But I was disappointed by the sudden end. It could have ended a lot less abruptly. I still had popcorn left.